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I really wish Jesus was legit
If I could just let God take care of everything and be assured there's a plan and the plan leads me to eternal Paradise...
God what a way to live...
All I'm waiting for is one singular shred of evidence. Something explicit and undeniable.
You'd think that someone all powerful who could read my thoughts and intentions would understand that but apparently not...
Same man. I don't want to believe in physicalism but.... where's God. I would worship him if he showed himself. I'd lick his feet clean. Anything to be saved via spiritual immortality
But first he has to be real
I dunno man. That guy murdered a bunch of babies via plague, killed some kids via siccing a bear on them to maul them to death, wiped out almost all life on the planet because he didn’t like how the humans—a very small sect of life on the planet—was acting, slaughtered a city, denied man knowledge, and loves songs about babies’ heads getting dashed on rocks.
Oh, and if he really is responsible for everything, then he’s responsible for creating a world where living beings have to kill other living beings to survive in the first place.
Even if he’s real, I don’t think he’s worthy of worship. They claim he’s all-loving, but that love seems pretty darn limited and conditional.
I much prefer Sir Terry Pratchett’s take: if there is a god, then it is up to us to become his moral superior.
Sure, doesn't even have to be physical. But if the entity isn't capable of interacting with my day-to-day life then there's no difference whether I believe in them or not. Might as well just default to empirical evidence.
I've always said that I envied people who can just believe in a religion without immediately being disillusioned. I'm out here just rawdogging existential dread. Lol
Right? Like people wonder why atheists are angry all the time. I have an answer because we are mortal because we are mortal.
If anyone who believes they have an immortal soul suddenly realized they were mortal they'd be pissed too.
Well, that's not what Jesus taught though. Jesus taught that there's a plan and you need to work at it to fulfill your part of it.
That's pretty much the same thing every religion and most philosophies teach.
I think that's only true if you use the word 'plan' incredibly loosely
I liked the idea that god has a perfect plan and its all going to work out in the end and he's got it all under control. Then one day I sat down to try and read the bible. Within 5 minutes of reading god makes everything from nothing, then basically says "whoops" and nukes everything and starts again.
Sorta makes me a little nervous.
Everyone knows that SimCity is much more fun with disasters turned on
for the Reformed folks that believe in TULIP, salvation is through God's grace alone
That's a pretty small group through. Most Christians believe you need to do something to get to heaven.
No, that is absolutely NOT what Christians believe. Certainly all protestants believe the salvation comes 100% through grace, not works. Catholic and Orthodox is more complicated, but even they believe works are a symptom of grace, not the other way around.
Protestants believe you need to have faith in Christ to be saved, and that will lead you to wanting to do good works. They're basically Catholics, but without the church institutions being central to salvation.
For Catholics and many other churches, you need to be baptised to be saved. For Catholicism specifically, this is done by your parents while a child, but it is also required for converts to be saved.
Born again Christians require a profession of faith and repentence. That's not a high bar there, but it's still a thing you need to do.
Calvinists believe in predestination, meaning your salvation is already determined, believe that those who will be saved will demonstrate certain behaviours, thus encouraging people to do things to convince themselves they're part of that elite group.
So generally speaking, Christians believe you need to do something to be saved.