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Mamdani Pounces as Leaked Audio Shows Cuomo 'Expecting Trump's Help' to Win
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Is it your impression that Cuomo is a liberal?
depends on your definition of liberal
yes, and i'm tired of pretending the word doesn't mean "capitalist pig".
Yes that's about what I thought you thought it meant lol
At a certain point in a tribal structure and framework, a word just gets reframed to mean "enemy" and becomes more or less useless for having any kind of conversation, because of logic like this.
liberalism is that political philosophy which combines capitalist economics with democratic election based governance. and yes, capitalists are the enemy, good job!
Doesn't sound like Cuomo is very in favor of democratic election based governance, that's kind of literally 100% of the point of why he's even in the news still
And yes, lumping anyone who is "enemy" into the same category and using catchy labels for them and using labels for one "enemy" camp to refer to people who are in a totally different camp, because what's the difference the important thing is we found an enemy, is exactly the thinking I am calling out. Good job providing a pretty good example of it
split whatever hairs you think will help you sleep at night, lib.
Wait, why am I a lib now? You know me, you know my viewpoint? Or you just start deciding anyone who disagrees with you in any way, must be a liberal otherwise they wouldn't be disagreeing with you?
It's actually remarkable how well this propaganda framework works. It's actually exactly the same as a lot of the MAGA structure, where they declare media as "biased" or people as "Marxist." It doesn't matter whether it's actually true. It's just a little self-sustaining structure, a reason to dismiss anyone who disagrees with them in any way, and they don't need to think any more about it once that box has been ticked.
I've actually noticed this thought process in a lot of Lemmy people. That little fumble where you decided Cuomo was a liberal might seem like kind of a trivial misstatement or something, but it's actually hugely telling about how your thought processes are working. I would really encourage you to reflect on it.
i'm sure you have an argument, i'm just not interested in masturbatory hair splitting and mental gymnastics anymore. but thanks for making assumptions about me, my thought process, and my stances, while lambasting me for doing the same when you've offered no clear position of your own except "lol u dum" dressed up in flowery language.
Good to hear! I'd recommend letting go of them, yes. Good job!
Depending where you are from it doesnt though. Same as "freedom to..." and "freedom from..." are two completely different aspects. Economic liberal and social liberal are two different ways of thinking
split hairs all you like, liberals are capitalists and capitalism is poison
I am not splitting hair. Are equal rights and minority protection capitalist ideas? Is democracy capitalistic? The right to education and religiouse freedom? The freedom to not be exploited at the workplace?
rofl you're talking to a middle aged queer and religious minority who has spent their entire adult life watching liberals make it very fucking clear that they don't give a shit about any of those things, they pay lip service then throw us under the bus the moment they're elected. for decades they have declined opportunity after opportunity to codify our rights into legislated law, preferring to leave it as case law and impotently stand by as the courts are captured to the inevitable end of our rights being stripped from us, which is now in progress. stop being so naive.