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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

And I think you have been overwhelmed by propaganda into thinking 2 incomes per household is normal

[-] Amuletta@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago

Two incomes per household has actually been normal for most people in most countries throughout history. The postwar nuclear family where only dad has paid work is a brief 40 year blip in western countries.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I block all liars, reconsider your life choices

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

In a lot of areas, two incomes per household is the only thing that keeps it a household. There is no need for propaganda.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Only because of the world wars normalizing full employment. Before then only the most poverty level households required two incomes and even then it wasn't universal

The propaganda is what has normalized it in your mind. The last 3 generations proves what happens when you let kids raise themselves

[-] bus_factor@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, it's because late stage capitalism requires prices to go up all the time, while salaries stagnate. People are spending way more of their income on housing these days, and even with two incomes they're living paycheck to paycheck. Why would anyone need to be propagandized? It's literally dual income or bust.

[-] jimjam5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Either dual income, or one person of the household better be making a mid-to-high six figure income.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for repeatedly proving how effective propaganda is by repeating the normalization phrases over and over again, while also denying that it exists

You are the perfect patsy and I'm sure you are supremely convinced this is all of your own intention.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 week ago

But if it were to go back to one income households, would only men have jobs?

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I never said it needs to be gender linked but there needs to be at least one parent at home at all times

If that means 2 incomes with both parents working half time for the same pay, then so be it.

Don't really appreciate you trying to pigeonhole me tho, but it's all I've come to expect from lemmy

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 week ago

I'm not pigeonholing you, I'm responding in context to what I said earlier.

A lot of the definition of being a good man and husband comes from being a provider; a definition that hasn't changed while the definition of a good woman and wife has increased to helping to significantly provide for a family.

If you don't change the social acceptance of men doing other things than provide for a family, it is going to cause significant issues for those men who aren't working.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah you don't change a culture by wishing about it and this just isn't the decade for the world to care about mens' needs, and no one is interested in portraying men in nurturing roles outside of women geared media. On the other hand assholes like tate and rogan are gaining record breaking audiences of angry disaffected men tired of being marginalized while being told they aren't being marginalized.

I'm pretty sure the competing ideologies of fascism and 3rd wave feminism are going to ratchet up the gender war for the forseeable future and anyone in the middle is going to get stomped by both sides.

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