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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

That's great for you.

But for people that want to continue enjoying it, that's not a viable route.

And, like I said to a different comment, that's pretty much reiterating the post that I was responding to. And that's fine for what it is, but it's such a pointless thing to make as a response to a suggestion of piracy that works fun a base assumption that there are people that won't just throw away their existing books and movies, and jump on a boycott.

Like, your opinion is valid and all, it just wasn't useful as a response to my suggestion

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

But for people that want to continue enjoying it, that’s not a viable route.

why would you continue to enjoy it though?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Why not?

Look, there's always going to be a debate about art vs artist. It's inevitable.

Any work by a flawed person can, and likely will, be conflicted in anyone that shares an objection to the creator. Some will resolve that conflict by rejecting all of it, some will only reject the creator, and some will reject neither, but feel bad about it.

There's no single answer. There is no answer that is the only right answer, no matter what any individual thinks is the right answer there's just people making their way through life the best they can.

I don't think you're actually asking me to explain the reasons why someone can and will continue enjoying the works of a shitty person. If you are, I can try to explain it, but the way you asked is very rarely an actual question, it's usually just an invitation to an argument, and I don't do that on blahaj. But, if that's not the case, I can write out any of the dozens of reasons I've seen and heard people express, maybe even the common thread between them in the hopes that it will help you as a fellow human being find understating with other human beings.

My take? I don't care. I have no emotional connection to Potter stuff. I enjoy them, but it isn't like it matters. It's just shit to pass the hours until death eventually takes us all. But I know that some people do have an emotional connection, and I'm perfectly fine with suggesting a way for them to keep their joy from being stolen from them by a harridan with a small mind and even less of a heart.

Life is too fucking ugly already. If someone finds joy in Potter stuff, IDGAF, we need all the joy we can get. Since there are absolutely ways to steal that joy back from the author without lining her pockets, not only will I not judge anyone doing so, I'll gladly point them to the software needed to do it. Well, not here, because I ain't fucking with blahaj like that, but in general.

That's my take on the matter. Anyone that wants to boycott can and should do so. Those that need the joy of the works, they can and should do so in a way that doesn't make the jerk any richer

[-] LadyAutumn 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I maintain what I said. Everyone has a line. Murder, sexual violence, child abuse, you know everyone has a point beyond which they will no longer consume content produced by someone. By continuing to consume content produced by Joanne Rowling, they are saying that she hasn't done anything enough to actually make the content she produced unethical to consume. There are always exceptions when it comes to art. I'm never going to convince people not to like something. But they can and should have to sit with the shame of that. The least they can do is own it, "yes spearheading an international movement to attack the rights of queer people is not enough for me to give up my favorite childhood author". If that's it for them, great. They're people who should probably stay away from the trans community. But to try and act like "No matter what an artist does it doesn't matter, their art is still sacred on its own and enjoyable without any ethical implcations" is ridiculous.

We're adult members of a community facing an ongoing outside attempt to literally destroy us. She is the figurehead of a movement thats sole aim is to entirely drive us out of society, an aim she is aware will kill us. If thats not enough for someone to drop a fucking book series than clearly trans lives dont matter too damn much to them.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Are you following me around to other parts of the thread?

That's a little fucking creepy

[-] LadyAutumn 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Youre spreading apologia for people supporting a woman who is extremely harmful to my community. I'm not going to passively sit back and watch you attempt to downplay how serious this conversation is to us. You ignored my comment and I did bring it over here when I saw you saying the same thing in an adjacent comment (this is all under my original comment, I see the updates). I'm not interested in people spreading support direct or indirect for Joanne Rowling on my home instance. I will argue against that every single step of the way.

[-] will_steal_your_username 3 points 1 day ago

She could just be glancing at the entire thread once in a while. Not that weird

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Nah, the comment she left was a continuation of a previous comment left elsewhere.

I specifically did not respond to that because it was already moving into argument territory, and I would rather not engage like that on this instance. Hell, I prefer not to do it anywhere, but will occasionally.

Once you start down the path where you're moving around a thread to chase a person down instead of either waiting, or pinging them in the comment chain you were already in, there is zero chance of it not ending in an unpleasant way. I've never once seen that end well on the internet, and I've been around forums since the nineties.

Is creepy the best word? Eh, pick one you like better, but it's not friendly and open communication for sure. It's the rough equivalent of someone walking away and grabbing their shoulder, if it played out irl. Maybe more the equivalent of "hey, I wasn't done talking to you", but neither of those ends well irl either.

In any case, I blocked them and I'm not going to let any conversation here turn into an argument. I'll walk away entirely before that happens. This isn't an instance where that's acceptable to me.

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