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[-] karashta@piefed.social 98 points 1 day ago

It's always "liberal indoctrination" to them. Because they can't understand that being more exposed to more ideas tends to make you less conservative. Also, it feels like a tacit admission that their own "education" was really indoctrination. That's probably one reason why they think all education is such.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Knowledge is the cure to conservatism.

You cannot simultaneously hold right-wing views and know enough about the world to have any valid opinions about how it should be run.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I am not a right-wing voter and don't consider myself a centrist, but discarding all right-wing views as faulty isn't gonna help to bring about a healthy democratic conversation. I would argue it is in the benefit of everyone to make a distinction between extreme/far-right views and 'regular' right-wing views.

Knowledge is a cure for a lot of things, no argument there.

[-] prole 2 points 10 hours ago

but discarding all right-wing views as faulty isn't gonna help to bring about a healthy democratic conversation

Name three that aren't.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Right wing politics is ultimately about concentrating power in the hands of the aristocracy of the day or distracting the public whilst the former goal is furthered.

These goals are to the detriment of modern society and should be wholly resisted. The goals of modern society are to create the rising tide to lift all ships.

There is zero value in the right wing school of thought beyond the warning to not pursue it we all got ~80 years ago.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

That's like saying everything left is bad because look at how the Sovjets ended up

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

No, it's just simply understanding the end goals of an ideology.

Right wing politics is ultimately about concentrating power in the hands of the aristocracy

Disagree. It's about enriching the self. It's about stonewalling or reversing social power.

It results in aristocracy but poor right wingers are not driven by that goal.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

It's about enriching the self. It's about stonewalling or reversing social power.

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The difference is how much one is able to "enrich" their self, is determined by how much they're willing to crush others to elevate themselves. The ultimate conclusion is concentrated power.

We agree there. I'm highlighting that creating an aristocracy is a side effect, not a goal.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

No.

Aristocracy is absolutely the goal. Rugged individualism is simply the most popular lie used to attain that goal.

Disagree.

The rugged individualism is what makes it popular, not the desire to be a serf.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 18 hours ago

We should really drop the narrative of the uneducated right. They love power more than progress.

[-] known_unknown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They have to work so hard at just propping up their biases (on penalty of hell in many cases) that it's hard to conceive of a world where other people aren't also secretly doing that.

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