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[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 229 points 1 day ago

In a 2021 speech titled “The Universities Are the Enemy,” then–Senate candidate J. D. Vance declared that universities, as left-wing gatekeepers of truth and knowledge, “make it impossible for conservative ideas to ultimately carry the day.”

Yes - universities are by their very nature in opposition to irrational positions borne of ignorance, hatred, greed and fear.

That is as it should be.

[-] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

The weird part is that there really aren't more than a handful of universities that are actually 'liberal.' Since Conservatives see the world in black and white, all an organization has to do to be seen as 'liberal' is just not be Conservative.

That's it. Either you lick Trump's stank butthole, or you're a 'liberal.' There is no such thing as non-partisan in their world. You either repeat the Conservative talking points, restate Conservative beliefs, loudly proclaim the party's talking points, or you're 'liberal.'

The foundation of education is based on the concept on wanting to better yourself and the world around you. Education is about progress, not conserving ideas that are proven to be less useful or harmful. There are words that fit better for not progressing, usually tied to indoctrination.

If you want to conserve shit in your life, that's fine, you just shouldn't force it on others. The Amish prefer to conserve their horse and buggies, that's fine. But it's not fine to force others to not progress to airplanes because of your beliefs. I'm sure there was someone who thought the wheel was to progressive, fine, carry your shit the way you like, but I'm going to use a grocery cart, wheelbarrows and whatever other tools I find more convenient to finish the tasks I want to complete.

Conservative by definition is to not make progress. What would be the point of learning anything new, if you weren't trying to do anything new.

Education will always be inherently progressive

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

"We dragged the Overton window so far to the right that basic facts are political advocacy"

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

I mean, just look at how they freaked the fuck out over Amazon merely showing you how much the tariffs are costing you for an item.

"A hostile and political act". That's what the admin said, and you can bet more than a few magabrained believe that knowing what you are being taxed by donvict is "political".

[-] karashta@piefed.social 105 points 1 day ago

It's always "liberal indoctrination" to them. Because they can't understand that being more exposed to more ideas tends to make you less conservative. Also, it feels like a tacit admission that their own "education" was really indoctrination. That's probably one reason why they think all education is such.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Knowledge is the cure to conservatism.

You cannot simultaneously hold right-wing views and know enough about the world to have any valid opinions about how it should be run.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I am not a right-wing voter and don't consider myself a centrist, but discarding all right-wing views as faulty isn't gonna help to bring about a healthy democratic conversation. I would argue it is in the benefit of everyone to make a distinction between extreme/far-right views and 'regular' right-wing views.

Knowledge is a cure for a lot of things, no argument there.

[-] prole 5 points 21 hours ago

but discarding all right-wing views as faulty isn't gonna help to bring about a healthy democratic conversation

Name three that aren't.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Right wing politics is ultimately about concentrating power in the hands of the aristocracy of the day or distracting the public whilst the former goal is furthered.

These goals are to the detriment of modern society and should be wholly resisted. The goals of modern society are to create the rising tide to lift all ships.

There is zero value in the right wing school of thought beyond the warning to not pursue it we all got ~80 years ago.

[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

That's like saying everything left is bad because look at how the Sovjets ended up

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

No, it's just simply understanding the end goals of an ideology.

Right wing politics is ultimately about concentrating power in the hands of the aristocracy

Disagree. It's about enriching the self. It's about stonewalling or reversing social power.

It results in aristocracy but poor right wingers are not driven by that goal.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It's about enriching the self. It's about stonewalling or reversing social power.

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The difference is how much one is able to "enrich" their self, is determined by how much they're willing to crush others to elevate themselves. The ultimate conclusion is concentrated power.

We agree there. I'm highlighting that creating an aristocracy is a side effect, not a goal.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

No.

Aristocracy is absolutely the goal. Rugged individualism is simply the most popular lie used to attain that goal.

Disagree.

The rugged individualism is what makes it popular, not the desire to be a serf.

[-] known_unknown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

They have to work so hard at just propping up their biases (on penalty of hell in many cases) that it's hard to conceive of a world where other people aren't also secretly doing that.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 1 day ago

We should really drop the narrative of the uneducated right. They love power more than progress.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

I wonder how much of this is inspired by/parroting Curtis Yarvin style bullshit about "The Cathedral".

Also, sidebar - Curtis Yarvin is such a fucking bullshit artist. I tried to watch some interview with him and JFC, what a shitshow. You'd think these people would at least be good at slinging their garbage, but you have to be a real brainless dumbass to fall for his "musings". The only interview with some supposed leading light that I can think of that was even worse was when Sam Harris was interviewing Jordan Peterson. I was just as baffled as I think Sam was...

[-] prole 3 points 21 hours ago

It's so much easier to grift conservatives... Like the shit you say doesn't even need to make sense as long as it "sounds intelligent" to these morons.

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