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Y’all really should consider reading this.
https://newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/the-story-of-the-boston-tea-party-in-myth-and-reality/
It’s way more complicated than the reductionist 5th grade level story taught in US schools that everyone settles on being reality. Right up there with George Washington’s cherry tree story (didn’t happen) or the pilgrims landing at Plymouth Rock (no, they didn’t land there).
The Boston Tea Party was about money, and about people with money being upset that other people with money were undercutting their profits, so they destroyed some really expensive goods in a way that disastrously hurt their own local business owners and not the people they claimed to be trying to hurt.
I’m sure parallels could be made between one of the US’s founding stories being about rich people manipulating the populace into war and today, where rich people are still manipulating people into fighting each other or whomever else.
it actually does hint that perhaps the path to overthrowing Trumpism is to radicalize the merchant class (aka petit bourgeoisie) against his agendas and force direct action. it's not so far fetched. for instance, Patriotic Millionaires. <- links to a short article about their plan to reduce inequality by taxing wealth
the rich are not a monolith. they each have their own special interests. there are many outside Trump's inner circle who depends on certain aspects of the economy being stable and profitable. maybe some of those angry multi-millionaites will switch loyalties now they see how bad Elonazi is for their bottom line?
Yep, I really don't understand how the wealthy in America think that trump will ever stand by his promises. They think that he will bow to them when he has the power to do otherwise? He's learning from putin and using his techniques to take down the wealthy.
I wouldn't be surprised if that was why he's doing the tariff thing in the first place. Take down Bezos, Apple, etc., so they have to bow to him. They're in his game and don't even know it.
To be clear, he's dumb, but he knows how to hire and listen to really smart, evil people.
I agree, but I also think they need to fix the things they helped break. Let them sit in the stew they made and use those super brain cells to get them out of it.
Dude, normal people can protest and that's about it. Don't get me wrong, protesting works but who knows if that's enough. But the wealthy control all of our data, the police and our utilities. The wealthy are the only ones that can fix this.
I think it is deeper. They didn't trust him per se. But they trusted he would screw things up royaly. They have deep pockets. They can weather the storm. The benefit for them is the regression of money to the people. And people who are less comfortable demanding more from companies. A lot of the wealthy are driven by a desire to do things without impediment. Elon is a classic example. He doesn't want regulations ot uppity employees slowing him down. Other wealthy are similar. So be resetting the regulations and the employee employer balance, they remove obstacles that slow them down from doing what they want to do. Overall, it was getting to hard for them to exploit the people and the planet. And they trusted trump to reset gains in those areas.
I can't imagine Amazon thinking that a huge chunk of their business would be taken out by 145% tariffs. Yes, they can weather the storm, but he makes his employees pee in bottles. His bottom line is a major focus of his life.
Well sure, he probably didn't expect 145%. But he operated amazon at a loss for many years. And I think he has mainly gotten what he wanted already. So he can feel free to start pushing back now. And we are seeing signs of that.
You know they cook the books to operate at a loss, right? It's not really a loss.
I wouldn't say they cook them. That implies illegal methods. And given the scrutiny they were under at the time probably didn't happen. But they sure do use every legal loophole they could find.
That said, they were doing a lot of reinvesting. He could have taken the money instead. So the point is that he has some patience.
Ahhh that sounds much more American. Thanks
In their defense they were drunk as fuck at the time. And were wearing racist costumes for some reason.
Obviously they weren't thinking clearly. Or much at all.
It's OK now, they've changed their name to the Boston Commanders.
Take em to class brethren!!
Where's the other brother? I used to have a roommate that said brethren instead of brother. Brethren is the plural of brother. Just an annoyance from the past resurfacing.
Well I didn't know the gender of the poster and "sibling" didn't fit as well so I defaulted to 3rd plural
... is this convergent evolution? Did a queer white Appalachian reinvent something a black man did?
Comrade is all-inclusive ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
It is, but "brother/sister/sibling" is what I meant.
I mentioned this in a more fleshed out comment, but I think it's a bit more complicated than that. This was the annexation of The British Empire from a forming society over a century and a half. During which the local populace would have to deal with British Militia and The East India Trading Corporation who were more loyal at the time to The British.
Did you read the article?
Not your linked article, every time I try to get to it I receive 502 - Bad Gateway.
The article covers everything you posted.
You can search it yourself.
“THE STORY OF THE BOSTON TEA PARTY IN MYTH AND REALITY”
I've argued pretty much all of this already. But, from the article:
The British East India Trading Company was a British Corporation and heavily influenced by The Crown / British Empire. It was used primarily to facilitate trade between all the British colonies and outposts. This isn't even fringe history, which makes me believe that this article is not written in Good Faith.
This meant that imports would primarily be for the British Military Occupants and it's ongoing war to expand Westward. The Colonists would have to barter with the British Occupants to get anything they wanted.
That's the root cause of the unrest and eventual revolution. Independence from being under The British Empires thumb and allowing them to separate themselves as a new Nation. The tea was a play to encourage this change in that society, a new society that spanned ~150+ years away from Britain on new lands over a 1600-mile (2574 kilometers) landmass.
These articles always call them "smugglers" but what does that really mean? These people were born ON Americas soil and they were "smuggling" local trade to circumvent dealing with the British Occupants.
The British East India Trading Company was a oldtime Corporation and it certainly had a Monopoly on trade. Either you believe that Corporate and British Governmental Rule is a de facto good thing or you believe in Free Trade, but you can't have it both ways in this time period.