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[-] amino 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

if anything, it's the opposite. to libs, not voting is seen as a cardinal sin because you don't agree that waiting for the electoral system to bring about salvation is a normal reaction.

[-] lilith267 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Voting is upholding a bad system that makes things worse.

Not voting is inaction that lets the system make things worse.

Idk how people can't understand that there are no "right" answers, nomatter if we personally believe that voting does/doesn't help we all collectively want better and getting there starts with working together rather then scapegoating

[-] amino 3 points 1 day ago

ah yes, both sides-ism. your comment only makes sense if we start from the baseline that electoralism is valid.

[-] riwo 14 points 1 day ago

hi, pls dont take my comment as an attack, i just wish to share my opinion with you :3

i dont think that electoralism has to be seen as valid, to see voting in an electoralist system and pushing for reforms as valid tactics.

ofc i do not think that reforms and elections will liberate us. i think it is foolish to use voting as our only or even primary tactic. but i think it can improve things or at least slow down our opressors. it can give us more breathing room to do the things that will actually lead to liberation.

i know that it feels bad to participate in a process and a system that you despice and consider illegitimate, but i dont think there are actual downsides to doing it other than that bad feeling.

i dont say this to demonize non-voting. i just want to explain why i see voting as a valid tactic and make people reconsider their views or maybe make me reconsider my own view :3

[-] amino 3 points 1 day ago

there are unfortunately a lot of downsides to it that don't get talked about enough. all of them too lengthy for an internet comment so I'll just link this video essay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBcF9Iv2rHs

[-] riwo 4 points 1 day ago

thank you for sharing :3
i watched the video and i found it very interesting and agreed with it a lot.

the videos does specifically argue against electoralism tho, and not against the act of voting in itself.

but i do see how the critique of electoralism applies to my understanding of a reformist arm of a liberatory movement. it makes me reconsider some things. even so, i do disagree with parts of that critique.

i wonder if the absence of any nominally liberatory parties leads more people to be radicalise and self organize, or if it just shifts the overton window to the right. i understand and agree that the electoral system needs to be deligitimized and people need to be discouraged from putting their trust into it, but does this mean, it should not be used at all?

[-] amino 2 points 1 day ago

from an anarchist POV, yes we should divest. the only "democracy" (I'm against democracy but that's for another day) we can hope for is the one we build ourselves on the local level. no representatives, only consensus decisions get passed.

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