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[-] SuperNovaStar 30 points 1 month ago

when the rich can just live on investment income

How do you think they make that money? Primarily off of consumerism. If we all collectively decided to share what we have and stop buying what we don't need, there could be no passive income, not at the scale it exists today, anyways.

[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

We also need to outlaw landlords. Owning land is not a job and it's certainly not a business.

[-] trashpanda@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Only raccoons could be owners of land :D

[-] Fluke@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago
[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

I think landlords make a lot of sense for commercially-zoned property, and for residentially there needs to be some way to live somewhere even if you can't afford the mortgage deposit. So there's nuance here that needs addressing IMO.

[-] SuperNovaStar 8 points 1 month ago

We could just... give everyone a place to live. Then there's no such thing as "can't afford a mortgage."

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Do people get to choose where they live in this scenario, or do we just allocate housing based on where's currently unoccupied?

[-] SuperNovaStar 6 points 1 month ago

People don't really get to choose where they live now. If you mean choosing from a list of vacancies, then sure, I don't see why not.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago

People do kinda pick where they are though? If there's some unoccupied housing in Denver, but you're living in Austin it's not necessarily useful, that's what I meant. I agree in principle on social housing, but there would probably need to be some kind of associated projects -- either new construction or housing where ppl live but there isn't enough accommodation, or new jobs created in areas with surplus, or both... And then you also need to think about local amenities (shops, hospitals, parks, schools, that sort of SimCity thing)

Sorry, I might have come across as if I fully disagreed with the notion, but I really don't - I just think that the idea only works with a more integrated policy.

[-] SuperNovaStar 2 points 1 month ago

Oh, sure, If you're just talking about stuff like which city to live in, I would think that these services would be available in every city. Although it wouldn't be a bad idea to have a system in place to encourage people to relocate, but it wouldn't be forced.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Consumerism is used for wealth redistribution.

Real wealth production occurs when machines create work, saving time. Work = money.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 month ago

I guess? With enough money you can just buy bonds, which sort of depend on consumerism but indirectly. Some municipal bonds return like 5%. 5% of a shit load of money is enough to live on.

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