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Trump says Putin launching massive strike on Ukraine is ‘what anybody would do’
(www.theguardian.com)
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I mean, as if anyone or their mother would realistically accept Zelenskyy's 10 point peace nonsense.
Putin meanwhile gave out very lenient peace terms in 2022, probably the most lenient peace terms of all time in fact, so lenient, Ukraine would have kept all of its territory with even the status of Crimea being negotiable after 10-15 years and future Russian aggression would encounter a problem, the peace treaty would have the US and the UK, as guarantors, who were obliged to assist Ukraine in case of aggression against it. While the Russian Federation attempted to add on another condition where all guarantor states including Russia itself would have to agree to intervene in Ukraine possibily giving Russia the ability to veto other countries from aiding Ukraine in the event Russia broke the agreement, they were likely willing to drop that condition. Throughout the negotiations, Russia was actually dropping many of their previous demands and compromised with Ukraine on multiple occasions (unlike Zelenskyy who didn't even invite Putin to his peace summits, kinda like the Russia-US peace summits rn).
If they didn't want to fight, why not accept this lenient peace offer?
Now what was the outcome of Zelenskyy continuing the war? Right, Putin now says that Ukraine will lose land.
Putin invaded in 2014 seizing Crimea. Ukraine did not attack Russia.
Putin invaded Donbas and Luhansk just months later. Ukraine signed multiple peace deals which Putin violated at that time.
Putin performed a full scale invasion of Ukraine in Feb 2022.
Nothing about Putin has offered peace terms for Ukraine that Putin honors. He'll keep violating any "peace" deals until he controls all of Ukraine or he's dead.
And nations are now realizing that Trump doesn’t fall far from the tree. He just prefers assets to land.
Make no mistake, Trump wants land too (and even more so the strategic power it affords, such as control of trade routes). That's why he's threatening to annex Greenland, the Panama canal zone, and Canada.
Source for 1? And regarding 3, Minsk II was violated by Putin himself when he choose to invade Ukraine in February 2022 saying Ukraine committed genocide in Donbas with no proof of the same.
I will PM you source for 1 since I do not really know the rules regarding posting NSFW content in the comments. Minsk II was already null and void by the time he invaded due to Ukraine violating it.
Received the PM?
So remind me again what happened in Donetsk and luhansk prior to Russia crossing the border?
It was at peace. That changed when Russian crossed the border as "little green men" unmarked Russian troops started the hot war there. Putin even admitted this was Russia:
"After two months of denial, on 17 April 2014, Russian president Vladimir Putin confirmed that the Russian military had been operating in Ukraine.[9][10] Furthermore, numerous sources, including Russian state-owned media, have confirmed that the little green men were a mix of operatives from the Special Operations Forces and various other units of the Spetsnaz GRU. It likely also included paratroopers of the 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade of the Russian Airborne Forces,[11][12][13] as well as mercenaries from the Russian state-funded Wagner Group.[14][15] While their status as soldiers acting under the orders of the Russian government was continually denied, their nationality was not. Alexander Borodai of the unrecognized Donetsk People's Republic stated that 50,000 Russian citizens had fought in Ukraine's Donbas by August 2015 and argued that they should receive the same benefits as Russia's other war veterans, though he maintained that the Russian government did not send them.[16]" source
Casual genocide denial from I see. Not a single mentioned of the 15000 people killed by the fascist before that. Disgusting.
That's absolutely delicious considering you're defending Russia and their actions in Ukraine. You have zero credibility. You want to see genocide, look in your own history and you'll see what Russia did to Ukraine in the past with 3.5 million dead Ukrainians with the Holodomor.
Ok fascist, don't answer then
The russian apologist strikes again...
Well at least someone is apologizing; Russia doesn’t appear to have any intention to do so.
Begone, propagandist. Peace is elusive because the Russian government has engineered the situation to be so. That you think they were "likely" to drop an obvious showstopper clause means absolutely nothing; the actual parties to the negotiation clearly did not feel that to be true.
For others who want more insight on how the 2022 talks unfolded: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/06/15/world/europe/ukraine-russia-ceasefire-deal.html
Nope.
Remind me - how many times has Putin actually kept to the terms of a ceasefire? Cause that's exactly what he's known for.
In the end, we all know:
-Putin is an asshole
-Ukraine did not pose the slightest military threat, and were not the aggressors
So, when it comes down to it, fuck Putin and his so called "lenient" terms. Bruising Putin's ego is not, in fact, a crime.
Everyone knows Putin will not settle for peace. He just wants to fix supply side issues to continue the offensive. You know this. It's not that you don't see the evil in that man; you defend it because you support it anyway.
Russian troll, nothing to see here.
Yes because everyone you disagree with, is a Russian troll.
Oh honey, you int fooling anyone.
Did Trump write this?
I am not aware of myself being an orangutan.
Then why are you writing like one?
2 day old account spewing this dribble
Are you actually functionally retarded or was there a lobotomy involved?
They're being an apologist piece of shit, but it doesn't justify ableism like that.
The concern isn't about them, but clearly you don't care.
No one has been diagnosed retarded in like 70 years boss the only people taking offense to the phase are white knights looking to save a damsel. That's no damsel, I'm no dragon so what's the argument.
Rude.
No one cares Karen, you don't get to feign indignation while you spew bullshit and apologize for murderous invaders.
Bullshit is when you back your words with actual facts and then people can't argue back but instead insult you.
No one is arguing the fact it's the disphit opinion mixed in as fact that's the issue.
Eat shit.
Again, Rude.
I suggest taking a deep breath.
I suggest shutting the fuck up if your going to be thin skinned and a Nazi.
Rude.
Also not a Nazi. In fact, I even argue with Nazis, many times in fact.
It was intended to be.
Ya huh, and China is a people's Republic.