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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago

Cool, let's arm both sides... The solution is always moar guns!

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

Guns is how we solved the Nazi problem the first time. If you've got a better solution, we're all ears.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Military action is how the Nazi military was defeated. Nazism was never defeated though. You must understand the US was very pro-Nazi before WWII. Wealthy private individuals from the US helped to find the Nazi party.

Later on, after the Nazi rose to power these same US individuals lobbied the governments of Europe and the US not to take the Jews in. The Nazi party originally wanted to expel all the Jews. This lead to the final solution and the murder of millions.

So it is more complex than guns kill Nazi. We were not the good guys in all this. I also think this has little to do with gun proliferation in the US and the lack of regulation causing untold suffering.

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Yes, we know. What's your better suggestion?

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Moars guns will not solve our problem is my original statement.

What to do? Regulate heavily and reject gun culture as a mental illness would be the best way to deal with it.

Obviously gun corporations and gun nutters are going to reject this. The question then becomes are we going to let a minority hold our entire civilization hostage so they can make money and play with their toys?

It is very common for a gun nutter to threaten death on people, especially people who talk about regulating guns. This threat of violence is terroristic in nature.

Perhaps properly regulating is not an option due to the ridiculous amount of influence threatening to murder everyone is. This is basically where we are now with politicians to corrupt or scared to do anything.

I have also presented the idea that technology could solve the problem. The Igun from Apple with facial in recognition and a host of safety features that prevent accidental discharge into your family members.

I know gun nutters hate the idea of a smart gun, but this may be the way we actually start reducing our ridiculous amount of gun deaths.

We could also start actually studying the issue. Our government has been cock blocking any research on gun safety for over twenty years now. It is now the number one killer of children, but there was a nothing to see here, riiight?

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I wasn't asking how we should handle the problem of gun violence.

I asked for your better suggestion for how we should defend ourselves from these fucking Nazis.

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[-] os4b4@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Are you gonna type your way through the next four years, nagging at people that will get thrown in camps to find a better solution?

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Why do you keep intentionally misspelling "more" as "moar"?

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It is just sarcasm flair.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 day ago

When you're preparing to fight a fascist regime, more guns is the solution.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Been working out so well with around 50k Americans dying every year needlessly. We are also clocking in at around one thousand child deaths every year. Japan had zero child deaths from guns this year, and the last, and the last, ad nauseam.

I know you gun nutters love your defense fantasies, but arming the gays isn't going to solve any problems and will result in more dead people

We already have more guns than people. How many moar guns until we are finally safe!?

[-] bestagon@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

But we’re not talking specifically about protecting children here, I’d agree with you that less guns are better to those ends. For fighting fascism though? It took a lot of gun deaths to unseat Hitler and Mussolini

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Sure in a hypothetical alternate reality where the only way to defeat evil is to shoot it. Unfortunately we live in the real world and it just means more dead people.

[-] bestagon@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

Maybe I’m feeling cornered, vulnerable, angry, as is often the case with these things. But how do you suggest we protect ourselves and our allies from an evil that strengthens itself off of your sickness, your hunger, your homelessness, and has absolutely no qualms about meeting you with violence and coming up with an excuse later?

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[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

In this case evil is coming to shoot you.

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[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Omaha beach was invaded with flowers and poems...

[-] djsoren19 25 points 1 day ago

Unironically yes, because more violence is incoming.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Since they belive in enacting laws that benefit them only, we have to twist these same laws against them.

Don't want more guns (or any guns tbh), but fuck it, I'm buying a gun and going to the shooting range with my fuck trump rainbow tshirt

[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

Better to keep a low profile in places you're outnumbered.

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