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[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 147 points 1 month ago

Unless I'm mistaken, none of those will block server-side ads.

[-] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 58 points 1 month ago

Isn't there some law that you have to visually indicate whether a given piece of content is sponsored (ad) or not? Can't that just be detected by ad blockers to skip/hide ads?

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 36 points 1 month ago

There isn't a law that I'm aware of, but typically the ad needs to be un-skippable/seek-able, which means there will always be some indication to the video player of what the user can skip or fast forward through.

That doesn't mean Google couldn't just make fast forwarding/seeking a premium feature, but they'd lose a lot of user appeal if they did so they probably wouldn't do that

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

Germany has this law, sponsored segments must be clearly labelled. But one could just hash the ad anyways or just try to fast forward and if it doesn't work and it would be the ad.

[-] anonymous111@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I was thinking about this. Can we crowd source add hash markers, in a similar way to how Sponsor Block opperates but with hashes instead of time stamps?

[-] vala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

It would be pretty trivial for YouTube to change the hashes at random. Might require a clever caching workaround on their end but it's totally possible to just flip a few bits before serving it.

[-] hashferret@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Even if they do this, I wouldn't be averse to a less on demand version of youtube. 3rd party apps will let you load a number of videos for later viewing. Would probably help me consume media more responsibly and youtube has to deal with the additional resources needed to serve all the videos I didn't wind up watching after all.

[-] XpeeN@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago

It depends on their implementation. If they decided to somehow serve the ad itself and serve the video only after the ad is done, I think that you won't be able to skip it, maybe only censor it to see a blank video screen or something.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 month ago

European law says you need to identify paid content, it's up to the channel to decide how, it's usually "AD" written in a moderately contrasty color in the top right of the screen

[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure about the mechanism, but isn't this the same thing as ancient early DVR's like TiVo that would record from the cable stream and omit the ads segments?

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

That's the thing, I don't think the mechanism exists (or works) yet. I'm confident it will someday, but I didn't think it worked yet.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

IIRC, Twitch uses similar ad injection. Ad blockers get around it by opening new video streams until they find one that isn't running an ad. Could be wrong though, I'm parroting an uncited comment.

[-] Wolfram@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Even then, the only fool proof way of getting around server side ads is using an adblocking proxy that pipes the video stream into a different country. And public proxies available are not foolproof because of excessive traffic or whatnot.

[-] Wolfram@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

And specifically this is for TTV.LOL revolving around Twitch.

I think the same applies to YouTube in the same countries Twitch can't play ads in. But I haven't seen anything about YouTube adblocking proxies like TTV.LOL.

[-] Sheik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Why is it that they can’t play ads in certain countries?

[-] Wolfram@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Theres basically a bunch of countries that forbid Twitch or YouTube from playing ads. Like at all.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They can block some kinds of server-side ads. And if google has those already, they have been quite successful against youtube.

But yeah, they won't block all server-side ads.

[-] Lev_Astov@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I'd be satisfied with replacing the ad segment with some other video temporarily.

[-] ignotum@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Your browser just receives a single video file, there's no way to tell where in that video there's an ad, if there even is one

You can't remove nor replace it if you don't know what to remove or replace

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