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[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 86 points 2 months ago

Seems like a problem springing from the press's bias towards neutrality, or how sometimes a politician is objectively wrong but the press treats them with kid gloves for fear of being accused of unfairness.

They can't print Trump's entire 3 minute rant, and they're scared to characterize it as meandering or incoherent, even if that's the best description. So, they print a single line from his rant and provide their own context.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago

Towards the appearance of neutrality, you mean. When person A says "2+2=4" and person B says "2+2=5", "neutrality" is not reporting some kind of false compromise at 4 1/2, but instead factually reporting that person A is correct and person B is wrong!

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Stop oppressing me with your woke math and shit! It's my deeply held belief that two plus two equals five!

[-] Googlyman64@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago
[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

We jest about bad math being called heritage, but remember that, sadly, 3/5 = 1 was unironically a huge part of their heritage.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

For large values of 2 it can even approach 6.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

You're very good at conservative math.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Heh well conservatives are irrational, but then again. Sometimes numbers are too. But 2.999999999999 + 2.9999999999 is pretty darn close to 3.

[-] EldritchFeminity 8 points 2 months ago

Didn't you know? According to Republicans, "Reality has a liberal bias."

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You're confusing neutrality with objectivity.

Edit: Neutral (adjective): not helping or supporting either side in a conflict, disagreement, etc.

Are you a big enough baby to downvote because you don't like what words mean? Neutrality and correctness are two different things. Objectivity does factor in what the facts are, neutrality doesn't.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Perpetuating lies just because one side claims them is neither neutral nor objective!

[-] ech@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

It is absolutely neutral. You're mixing up neutrality with equivalence. Just because a neutral party reports on something that's clearly incorrect doesn't mean they are sponsoring or supporting it over something else, nor is it saying they are equally valid claims.

The purpose of neutral reporting is to have a record of what happened, not to judge it right or wrong. Unfortunately, sometimes (a lot of the time, nowadays) noteworthy events involve unpleasant and/or malicious actors, but we can't just shun them from history because their purposes are ignoble.

[-] starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

2+2 is actually 5 I've read it in a book with a bunch of numbers as a title. its basic knowledge, just like: War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Agreed. Their motivation is money, and there’s more money in keeping the election a neck & neck horse race, even if one of the horses is rabid, lame, and in every way unfit to run. They’ll downplay his blaring faults, and magnify any tiny fault they can find in his competition, just to keep the race “fair” - for ad revenue.

[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They also don't like to get sued, and Orange Julius has a habit of suing anybody who offends him.

[-] Fern@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Too true, also what we call civility politics. I wouldn't be surprised if corporate backers prefer it that way.

[-] bec@lemmy.nz 2 points 2 months ago

I’m relieved to learn this is a term. I see so many appeals to civility and decorum, and it turns into giving the Supreme Court away.

[-] Sop 1 points 2 months ago

They did the same with Biden until the horrible debate. It’s not a political bias but a bias towards rich politicians.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

I want to know what media you were watching that didn't highten every biden stutter when that man has had a stutter his entire life

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