216
submitted 11 months ago by ApollosArrow@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

I was trying to think of which games created certain mechanics that became popular and copied by future games in the industry.

The most famous one that comes to my mind is Assassin’s Creed, with the tower climbing for map information.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Please people, help me out with this, which game popularized any modern game to be a huge ass open world action RPG?

My best bet is that it is The Witcher 3's fault.

[-] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Probably any Bethesda game

[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_(video_game)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_(video_game)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angband_(video_game)

Depends on how you constrain that idea. Open worlds were a very early idea, but old computers were somewhat capacity limited in how much content you could have.

[-] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 11 months ago

I would say older than that (well maybe not elite), as much as the tech could handle it you should include:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_Esprit

Here you had several town maps, including dual carriageways, main roads, side roads, one way streets. And you could just drive down any of them. They were all nondescript, but the amount of memory really limited what could be done.

There was also the games using the freescape engine. Driller, Darkside and Total Eclipse. These were all about as open world as you could achieve on the hardware of the time.

In terms of "open world" the definition is open to interpretation. I'd argue that text based adventures were open world too in their own way. So it really depends on what features people agree makes an "open world" game as to what the first game that contains all those features was.

[-] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Been around since at least early Final Fantasy / Chrono Trigger SNES era (for some values of action). Maybe Atari 'Adventure'.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Could even say it goes back to the Zelda games on NES. Metroidvania games might also count. Those games all have the "you might progress in any available direction" mechanic, which IMO is the core of the open world mechanic.

There's also some games like Star tropics where the whole world was open (as in you could return to previous locations) but progress was more linear.

Would super Mario world count as open world? Not as old as the NES ones I mentioned, but I'm curious. Or say if you could go back to previous worlds in SMB3, would that be open world?

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

GTA3 is the one that started the trend.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Hmm, it lacked the RPG part though... GTA San Andreas on the other hand 😀

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I wouldn't call most of the modern ones real RPGs either.

[-] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Open world RPGs were always the goal, old games tried to mask the hardware limitations by using several techniques. By the time the Witcher 3 came along open world RPGs were the most common thing, in fact at the time lots of people called the Witcher a sellout because of that, it's like if it had come up a couple years ago and had base buildiechanics, EVERYONE else was doing it.

There are LOTS of examples that pre-date TW3, I'll limit myself to a few, just because it's the ones I played. In the 90s and early 2000s I used to play Ultima Online, which is an MMO from 97 that has a vast open world. But if you want first person, Oblivion is old enough to drink.

[-] UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago

It started long before that, I think ubisoft in general was hugely influential in that trend.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

In a way, I'd say World of Warcraft (2004 onwards) popularized that.

Here's your starting place. Here's a bunch of easy quests and monsters.

You quit the starting area. Everything feels huge and really, really fucking far away. One step in the wrong direction and you're assaulted by an enemy with a 💀 for a level. Not only that, most people would only see the loading screen once before doing an hours-long playthrough and that also increased the sense of "fucking huge world"

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 3 points 11 months ago

I think the fault lies with Ubisoft and Assassin's Creed. They really championed the idea of a bloated open world stuffed with systems that don't really interact with each other, and now AAA gaming just keeps trying to stuff more mechanics in the pile.

[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

First thing that came to mind are the Dragon Age games before, at least Inquisition was sort of action RPG.

Before that in a lesser extent the Assassin's Creed games, although they were more action than RPG.

That said, I greatly enjoyed all these games, including Witcher 3.

[-] iegod@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago
this post was submitted on 19 Aug 2024
216 points (100.0% liked)

Games

41115 readers
1656 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS