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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I'm holding all celebration until the election is certified and there is no sign of insurrection.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

no sign of insurrection

For what it's worth: I'm not a democrat. Ask me why I'm supporting a democrat and will say in no uncertain terms there is no choice to be made this election. I mean there's a lot of reasons, but it is utter insanity this isn't enough by a long shot.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My dad was the same way after Jan6. Before he had been a hardcore drumpf supporter.

Seeing the attack on our capitol finally broke him out of it. I don't know if he's going to vote at all but I am sure that he won't be voting red for the first time in his life.

My aunt? Well.... not so much...

Thank you for being clear sighted about what has happened.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

That shit never would have flown with me. Again, I might be libertarian, but not the crazy kind.

But for whatever it's worth, this whole last decade has been weird. I know, personally, people who showed up with the goofy "tea party" hats that just kinda quietly bowed out, and on the other end people who became more vocal. It's just not normal. There's not a consistency between teaparty/not teaparty republicans and Trump.

I'm glad your Dad at least is in the former. I'll argue all day with those people about basic human rights, but my point is shit is fucked. The people I know, whether or not I agreed with them, that were on those statehouse steps, are not turning out to vote. I get fiscal conservatives, I get structuralists, I hope someday to meet one or the other, because certainly neither has ever been elected to office.

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I know exactly one fiscal conservative and she thought the Tea Party was trouble long before either the media or I had figured out they were anything more than a goofy protest group.

That said, she was one person out of thousands. I used to live in a very red state and the vast majority of my fellow citizens there were the exactly stereotypical bigoted redneck that drumpf's bombastic style appeals to.

[-] batmaniam@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

There are legitimate concerns about our spending and debt. Fiscal conservatives aren't totally wrong when they bring that up, but it's never the sacred "free market" that has to take the blows. The last proper fiscal conservative was Eisenhower, and even that's a mixed bag.

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