@mii @blakestacey I cannot and will not argue about your points, they're absolutely valid. The words you're using however are not correct. Nazis are fascists, as are these right wing monsters. They are antisocialist, not socialists. They are against socialism and against democracy and only for their own brand of autocracy.

@kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social My Debian Stable system was not on a version involved. My Manjaro was patched the very next day. My source based installs pulled from the git source, which was never involved. My Devuan is okay, and also does not run sshd. No problems here...

@OurToothbrush Your points are disingenuous. At the time some of the original works that are quoted were written, the term genocide had not come into common use. That makes the point that some of the writers did not use the term rather meaningless. Had you read the articles and researched the background data cited you might have learned something. It is clear to me now that learning that something you have questioned has a strong factual basis is not exactly what you're looking for. You're looking for someone to reaffirm your misconceptions. I am not that guy, and that does not upset me although it seems to upset you. Since you're not interested in anything from me I will abandon this thread at this point, but I suggest you continue and widen your readings I challenge your preconceptions to get closer to the truth. I wish you the best of luck.

@OurToothbrush https://euromaidanpress.com/2017/10/04/why-holodomor-is-genocide-under-un-convention/

@OurToothbrush https://www.lemonde.fr/en/europe/article/2023/10/13/council-of-europe-recognizes-soviet-era-starvation-of-millions-in-ukraine-as-genocide_6168547_143.html#

@OurToothbrush https://www.britannica.com/place/Ukraine/The-famine-of-1932-33-Holodomor

@OurToothbrush Yes. History is not my primary subject, but I have three degrees and trust the foremost experts on the subject. https://holodomor.ca/resources/documents-and-sources/documents/

@OurToothbrush my history books Aldo mention the starvation devastation Stalin visited upon the Ukrainian population. It is a matter of historical record, witnessed and verified. What about it do you doubt?

@OurToothbrush Here then https://www.npr.org/2022/11/28/1139402378/ukraine-holodomor-famine-stalin-parallels-putin-russia-war

@OurToothbrush https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

@OurToothbrush https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

@OurToothbrush In Ukraine, Stalin created starvation.