Yeah it course corrected a little bit but it did not start out very well. The brainless, misrepresented link dump is the highest voted one. As people pointed out, link dumps like that are straight from alt right playbook. The one reply that called out the issues got removed by mods and it was heavily downvoted initially (actually the timing and amount of upvotes and downvotes in those two comments, and how it evened out makes me think someone was vote manipulating when the link dump was posted). One of the comments from the link dump user was calling the debunker an eugenicist too and that got way too many upvotes off the bat than makes sense to me.

Like I said, there's diversity of opinion but some users, instances have pretty terminally online, black and white opinions that lead to downvote burials. And for a lot of people, that does signal "this is what I should think/this is what I shouldn't think". If it's not the case for you personally, cool. But black and white thinking is so much easier and upvotes/downvotes play right into that.

[-] Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net 18 points 13 hours ago

I think there's plenty of diversity. However there is a tendency on certain instances to completely dogpile anyone who has the Wrong Opinion on certain issues, with extreme hyperbole.

Take the AI thread going on. People keep referring to environmental costs as if using an AI query is the equivalent of burning down a whole tree. You consume way more energy just charging your phone. Watching a video. Playing games. Yet using an AI is bad enough to get you called a fascist, an eugenicist and other fun things. The lack of perspective is staggering but certain section of Lemmy users have just decided that AI is evil and any nuance is wrongthink. Even just accepting the reality that AI isn't going to go away is seen as evil comparable to murder.

Other example is the db0 blocking feddit.org debacle.

You couldn't have missed the point of the question more if you tried, and your response is textbook ad hominem.

You side-stepped the philosophical problem I posed and instead took that as proof that I don't believe in kindness. For the love of all that's good in the world, please do not engage in philosophical threads if this is the extent of your ability to do so.

The lack of funds in education is truly showing, holy shit.

[-] Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Straight to ad hominem. If I don’t share your reality tunnel, I must be broken? When people can’t justify their beliefs, they default to attacking the person instead of the idea.

If the categorical imperative feels like an ‘objective truth’ to you, how do you know it’s not just a really convincing reality tunnel? Like, how would you test whether it’s actually objective, or just something your brain is really good at justifying?

You see, if we tell parents that it's actually super important that they raise their kids, I'm sure they will do it. Just like if we tell everyone that a vaccine for a dangerous disease is a really good idea, everyone will just settle down and go get it.

This thread certainly is full of interesting takes.

"People who get called stupid are just the result of the luck of the draw"

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOO I WANNA CALL PEOPLE STUPID HOW DARE YOU BAN WORDS PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE ASSHOLES"

Pinball is grossly under-appreciated, and its progression is a great example of doing new things with old ideas.

Explain.

Not because I strongly disagree, but I'm curious since you bring it up as a controversial take.

[-] Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

>"look up paradox of tolerance UwU"

>"ok, let's look at what it actually says"

>"i didn't read it UwU"

that tracks

[-] Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i think people not knowing how to actually win an argument against a bigot is exactly the reason there are so many these days

shit's easy. not that they'll admit defeat but getting them babbling irrational nonsense takes very little debating skills. and when they inevitably start throwing ad hominems, then the mods have legitimate grounds to kick them out.

[-] Waveform@multiverse.soulism.net 21 points 3 weeks ago

please keep throwing anti-american hissy fits.

I love these kinds of deep dives. If intelligence is happening at this scale, it suggests that "mind" might be the substrate of reality rather than just a byproduct of biology.

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