Lemmy.world is a shitty instance, filled with transphobes and trolls. Would definitely recommend moving to a different one. I hear lemmy.blahaj.zone is really nice, they ban transphobes and their apologists on sight.

Ada seems really cool, she does a lot for this community and won't take shit from transphobes, which seem to be most of the people I see complaining about her, transphobes and their "centrist" apologists. IMO those are the one group of people you don't try to please, them not being pleased is a good thing.

Found another one of them.

Just in case it's not clear, there are indeed people with ideas so toxic and so dangerous they need to be removed. Otherwise they will ruin it for everyone. When you tolerate the intolerant, tolerance is eventually seized and destroyed by the intolerant.

This isn't a case of disagreeing, this is by far the most common misrepresentation that centrist apologists use to try and vilify the banning and ostracizing of bigots and harmful ideology. There is no comparison to disagreeing about flavors of ice cream, to not wanting someone who hates trans people in your community where trans people hang out. Any attempt to do so is a bad faith comparison, because they are not equivalent.

I was pointing out that out of the three that we have here, the .ml one has the least problems. Maybe it isn't perfect but the .zip one is run by a transphobia apologist who literally did it in this community, and the .world one is crawling with with transphobes and transphobia apologists.

Maybe lemmy.ml as an instance isn't super great, I can understand that. I know about the controversy with Nutomic. I just wanted to suggest an alternative to using the one on lemmy.zip and I don't think it's a great idea to use the one on lemmy.world because lemmy.world as an instance has a transphobia problem among their userbase, and it's really bad to be there as someone openly trans or visibly queer.

I changed my post not to recommend lemmy.ml specifically, and instead be about the event itself without offering any recommendations of alternatives specifically. What matters most is that people here know about this and don't continue using a community run by a transphobia apologist.

Just as well, the Lemmy.world one was filled with transphobes and transphobia apologists. No progress to be made there unfortunately.

Lemmy.world might be a lost cause, maybe defederation of .world should be more widely considered...

It's almost certainly transphobic people or bots run by transphobic people. Either way people who don't bring anything positive to the discussion and who bear hostility to the trans community, hence why I say the downvotes on the post can be used to find some of the more quiet transphobes and ban them.

I don’t support transphobia, but this sounds extremely aggressive and almost unworkable. Who gets to decide what qualifies as “thinly veiled transphobia”? or “transphobic dogwhistles” and what approach is used to disperse bans?

It's easy, comments which dismiss or devalue trans people, attempt to undermine our rights, or justify or sympathize with transphobia count as thinly veiled transphobia. This is widely agreed upon by trans people and their allies alike.

For example, in many countries some people who might be generally supportive of trans people (in the sense that they would want you to be the best version of yourself) might oppose inclusion of trans women in natal-women’s spaces. Does this qualify for an automatic ban?

This is transphobic, it implies that trans women aren't real women. We are real women. We aren't men pretending to be women. This type of argument attempts to invalidate trans women and claim that we aren't real women. They claim to respect us as women but they don't think we should be in spaces with other women. If we're real women and they think we're real women how does that make any sense. Answer, it doesn't. This is an example of thinly veiled transphobia.

Some might claim this is transphobic, but my answer to that would be: How do you know? Do you speak the local language? Have you lived there? Do you have any knowledge about the region’s history? Do you know what the attitude of the local LGBT community is to the above-mentioned example?

More examples of trying to justify thinly veiled transphobia. You know how we know it IS transphobic, because it is exclusionary towards actual women on the basis that we're transgender. Just because transphobia is normalized in some places doesn't make it not transphobia, also doesn't make it not wrong and exclusionary. Please don't try to excuse transphobia on the basis of the people being foreigners or the transphobia being mild and the people still self-proclaiming themselves to be trans allies.

Hopefully more people from lemmy.blahaj.zone can go through the general communities on lemmy.world and the like and report as many of those users as possible so they can be banned from their instance.

I would definitely oppose this without addressing specifically what qualifies as "transphobia" and what the specific policies are with regards to moderator actions. Otherwise this is just some rampage witchhunt against perceived enemies.

It's not complicated, anything trans exclusionary or invalidating to trans identities is transphobic. "I don't hate trans people but I don't think they should force their identities and pronouns onto other people" is a transphobic dogwhistle and a prime example of thinly veiled transphobia, and it's the kind of thing you'd likely excuse here. I mean you literally excused excluding trans women from "women's spaces" despite us being women. That in and of itself is a dogwhistle, "protect women's spaces". I do think that Lemmy.blahaj.zone though should alert other admins including lemmy.world's admins o the problem though so they can ban these people everywhere, and not just from a single instance and its communities.

Most people who are transphobic know what they are doing, I'm certain the people I saw do. They're not going to change, they need to be given the boot to protect our communities from becoming Nazi bars.

Yeah, we need more instances to do this. People who undermine our right to exist represent an existential threat to our existence. No matter how innocuous it seems at first glance.

I'm not sure how relevant that is, considering most of the accounts I've seen doing this are from lemmy.world, I've seen some doing it from .ml but most are from .world.

Most of the people exhibiting the transphobic traits and behaviors I've mentioned had @lemmy.world extensions on their account. I saw only a few from lemmy.ml doing it, and essentially no hexbears doing it at all.

Sometimes it do be necessary for some of us. Lucky for me mine shrunk a lot on E, or I very well might've done what they did.

Edit: Transphobic dipshit downvoter has no understanding of just how bad it can be to have gender dysphoria. I hope you never have to feel just how truly awful it feels like to be born in the wrong body and feel out of place in life. It sucks royally.