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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by Blackout@kbin.run to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I just think the novelty of these type of displays was up in the 90s, It's time for an upgrayedd. I propose leprechauns flying up and down the river wearing water jet packs, shooting people with their Chicago-style hot dog cannons would be more with the times. What's your idea?

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[-] leetamus@lemmy.world 180 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Fun fact: It’s actually beneficial that they do this because they use Gatorade which has electrolytes and as we all know, that’s what the plants crave.

[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 119 points 9 months ago

I don’t remember the comedian, but I remember the joke:

“If they can dye it green for St. Patrick’s Day, why can’t they dye it blue the other days of the year?”

[-] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Isn't that from the fugitive?

[-] Nusm@yall.theatl.social 8 points 9 months ago

Maybe, I don’t remember. I thought it was from a comedian, but I could be wrong. (Memory isn’t what it used to be. 🤷🏻)

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I've seen apartment complexes that have little fake ponds and rivers flowing throughout the grounds that are dyed blue. It doesn't look good. It looks like the water with that cheap toilet bowl cleaner in it.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 75 points 9 months ago

The crowds it attracts today still are huge. What do you mean the novelty has worn down? I have lived in the area since 2012 and I still haven’t gone down to see this because I don’t want to deal with the crowds.

On another note, I guess I’ll be there in a jiffy if they shot me with an Italian beef - wet (not from the river) and lots of giardiniera.

[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 15 points 9 months ago

Italian beef - wet

Ahh yes! The only correct way to eat ur Italian beef.

[-] irish_link@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, Italian beef for St. Patricks day. Hahaha.

In all honesty I wouldn’t blame you or Chicago, they are super delish. (Edit grammar)

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[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 73 points 9 months ago

Head over to the unpopular opinion group, you're not asking a question, you're stating an opinion.

[-] stackPeek@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

IKR, I'm starting to see more and more of this kind of questions here. I wish mods do something about it

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[-] Blackout@kbin.run 15 points 9 months ago

I'm asking you why they do this when it looks like crap? People actually like seeing a neon green river? What is wrong with those people? See, 3 valid questions.

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[-] Bruncvik@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago

As a Dubliner (Ireland, not one of the many Dublins across the pond), I must say that Americans are really weird about Paddy's Day. We have a large parade in Dublin and smaller ones in smaller cities, and then those of us who have kids ho to family fairs, and the rest for a pint at the local. We leave the city centre to the tourists who get shitfaced on overpriced, prepoured Guinness for no good reason. And even though we did some weird things with our river (the time in the slime), we never dyed the Liffey green.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago

Americans look for any reason to get shitfaced. Ask anyone what Cinco de Mayo is about about. Most wont have any clue.

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[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 27 points 9 months ago

St. Patrick's Day in America has always been more of a celebration of Irish-American immigrant culture than it is of Ireland itself.

[-] OftenWrong@startrek.website 19 points 9 months ago

I mean.. Other than them dying that shit green none of that sounds that different from what goes on over here in general

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We have a lot of people who live far from their country of origin, so they get really excited when they get to celebrate their heritage and get a special national holiday. Then of course the rest of us Americans love a good time and excuse to party, so we love celebrating alongside them. It's all in good fun. When I was younger, there was a whole neighborhood that went off the hook for stuff like St. Patrick's Day, Mardi Gras, and stuff like that. My friends and I would always be so excited to go down there and party it up. It's a really good time for everyone involved.

[-] uriel238 8 points 9 months ago

Here in the states St. Patrick's day is more about Mad Sweeney from American Gods or The Lucky Charms mascot than it is about the guy who invented the Shamrock as a Catholic mnemonic. Go to your local department store like Target or Walmart and look for St. Patrick's Day seasonals and you'll find four-leaf clovers where shamrocks should be.

We can't tell the difference and don't really care. We'll just take our kids to McDonalds to get a minty milkshake.

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[-] charlytune@mander.xyz 7 points 9 months ago

In Liverpool, which prides itself on its Liverpool roots, Paddy's Day is one of the days to avoid town and most of the pubs for me. Absolute carnage. The other ones to avoid are Grand National weekend, particularly Ladies Day, and Mother's Day.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago

This causes no harm to the wildlife and is a fun celebration. People here are always talking about "let people enjoy things" when that thing is some counter-culture thing. Well, I say let people enjoy things, even when that thing is a mainstream holiday. Have some fun. Let loose.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 months ago

I don't mean to sound all new agey, but I feel like we're disrespecting the planet by dyeing a freakin river.

[-] Tenniswaffles 20 points 9 months ago

I think that's nothing compared to all the, y'know, irreparable destruction and pollution we do to the to the planet tbh.

[-] Chailles@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

In what capacity is it anymore disrespect than doing literally anything else?

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 52 points 9 months ago

A recent article asking the same thing on Tampa Bay's activities

While there doesn't seem to be obvious red flags of harm, something doesn't feel right to me about dumping chemicals into the environment that eventually break down. The article says the company making this particular dye warns about it in higher quantities or letting it become concentrated in places downstream, and wearing protective equipment when handling the larger amounts. How much of that is only legalize to protect from misuse vs. actual tested issues?

[-] Blackout@kbin.run 20 points 9 months ago

I just think that color green is ugly and looks like industrial waste

[-] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 12 points 9 months ago

it's how you make more ninja turtles though, and lord knows we need them now more than ever!

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[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 49 points 9 months ago

I don't care so much about the novelty. I want to know what impacts this has on the environment.

I assume it's been studied to be non-toxic for fish. Or at least I hope it has. But what about other effects it might have? Does it significantly reduce visibility and impact the ecosystem in that way? Some other effects?

[-] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 33 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure you can eat Fluorescein with no ill effects other than turning your piss dayglo. It's very widely used as a 'non-toxic' tracer dye so I'd imagine studies have been done.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Have they done studies on this scale? Probably. But still a valid question. If nothing else it kind of desensitizes us to pouring green sludge into rivers. Fuck do I know, I'd be freaked out if I was a fish. I'd also eat a incandescent neon green fish, but that's on the fish.

[-] Oaksey@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

They do it at scale once a year.

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[-] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 31 points 9 months ago

Tribal custom. They do it because they’ve always done it.

[-] Drew89@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Upgrayedds not gonna be too happy about this.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

How is it not a good look?

[-] Blackout@kbin.run 27 points 9 months ago

Well I live near an actual toxic river that has been cleaning up lately. I just think dying it green makes it look gross, maybe it's time to projection map it green or give everyone green tinted glasses so then everything is green and you don't have to make the river an oooz color.

[-] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 57 points 9 months ago

Lol sounds like a you problem. It's all biodegradable and good fun. It actually does look cool. Long time Chicagoans and new visitors still like it. Sorry you don't.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Ah yes, a perfectly safe dye... that has warning labels on it indicating it's a bad idea to use a lot and it's toxic when concentrated. Yep, pefectly safe!

[-] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago

Anything is toxic when concentrated enough. Fish food kills fish at high volumes; fish kill humans at high volumes.

What's crazy is there are really good ways to dilute things--namely using a high volume of water...

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 10 points 9 months ago

Hell, water and oxygen are toxic. The dose makes the poison.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah I honestly always thought it looked really cool too

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Isn't the dye something non toxic though?

[-] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There are water-tracing dyes out there that are designed specifically to be able to dump into water to see where it's going -- like, to find leaks and such -- and I bet that they're using one of those.

IIRC you can normally get red or green.

googles

https://www.amazon.com/water-tracing-dye/s?k=water+tracing+dye

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[-] tal@lemmy.today 19 points 9 months ago

leprechauns flying up and down the river wearing water jet packs, shooting people with their Chicago-style hot dog cannons

I mean, they're not mutually-exclusive. You can do both.

[-] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
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[-] Battle_Masker@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

better yet, make a green dye outta algae, so that it actually does something other than look interesting. And knowing how rivers in cities work, it's polluted enough that algae will die off withing a few days tops, so it'd be efficient

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.world 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It'd be bad. Real bad. An algae bloom of massive proportions. It has one huge issue.

Enough algae to make the rivers run green will use up enough oxygen at night to kill off fish and oxygen hungry invertebrates, starting a chain reaction of death.

Now you have a river full of dead organisms, so they start decomposing thanks to microbes. You know what many types of bacteria love? Oxygen. So they start using up oxygen, multiplying all the while. Night hits and the algae need to use oxygen, but a bunch die because there's not enough. Now the river is full of literally hundreds, maybe thousands of tons of decomposing matter. The river largely goes anoxic (meaning there's no oxygen) so things start dying left and right. A bunch of those bacteria can live with and without oxygen, so they use up what they can and keep on chugging without.

Now we've moved from aerobic respiration to anaerobic. You know what the primary byproducts of anaerobic respiration are? Organic acids and alcohols, which smell. The river begins to smell like an infected wound. It's no longer green but deep, murky brown from the suspension of decomposing organisms. This continues until the river flushes everything out, but it kills what's downstream as it continues until it hits the ocean, where it likely continues to kill everything in the vicinity until it becomes dilute enough.

I'm a microbiologist and worked with algae and cyanobacteria as an undergrad. Never underestimate the impact of uncountable billions of trillions of living organisms.

[-] Battle_Masker@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

oh damn. more colossal waves of death is the last thing a celebration of the Irish need. thanks for setting it straight

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