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[-] zcd@lemmy.ca 92 points 8 months ago

Tom Bombadil was supposed to be in the movie but he forgot to actually appear and went a galavanting elsewhere during filming

[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 87 points 8 months ago

Do not badmouth my husbando

[-] Assman@sh.itjust.works 55 points 8 months ago

I mean doesn't gandalf say if they gave him the ring he'd just lose it?

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago

Why didn't just Tom wear the Ring as he makes passionate love with his wife, so he can force Sauron to watch.

Sauron, who is a virgin, who never had a gf and was dismembered and reduced to a giant eye by a fucking human would realize he is nothing compared to Tom, whose girth is beyond even Eru Ilúvatar's comprehension.

Wishing to die but unable to kill himself as he doesn't even have a fucking hand to pull the trigger, he would order his orc armies to piss on him, so that the flames of his eye can be extinguished and his mind can be set free of Tom's all encompassing girth. His spirit would be released to the boundless void that ripples and contorts with Tom's mighty thrusts and he would find no solace.

Edit: When Tom thrusts his final thrust and shoots a billion Bombadillos deep into Goldberry's loins, the impact would shatter Sauron's soul into a billion Saurodillos and he would be free. When this happens, not even the wisest can tell.

[-] runeko@programming.dev 18 points 8 months ago
[-] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago

To me, it is now.

[-] GnomeKat 52 points 8 months ago

I love the Tom Bombadil part of the books, I don't care what y'all haters say Tom is GOAT

[-] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Facts, Tommy B is the best part of LotR. I'm also glad they left him out of the movie, cause he's the one thing that wouldn't have translated well.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

People complain about the movies but if they included everything the movies would be several weeks long.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People complain about the movies but if they included everything the movies would be several weeks long.

LOTR fans: print it on 70mm IMAX film, grind it up into powder. And inject that shit right into my veins.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Bit of an exaggeration, but the point still stands.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

No it wouldn't, you just need to cut out the stuff Jackson added to make the movie more mainstream.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Movie adaptations need filler, the books themselves would be the length of the Jackson movies but wouldn't play well to audiences. That's just how it works it's why you have to look at movies separately from their books.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Oh sure, I'm only saying if the movies followed the books, the movie wouldn't be ridiculously long. It's only long because Jackson added extra stuff that wasn't in the books.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 31 points 8 months ago

TLDR?

Sorry yes I only watched the movies, I read the Hobbit and gave up at LOTR 1 page 80 or so, when it was still random stuff not in the movies.

[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol. This might not be popular BUT there's a reason he doesn't make the cut in the movies or extended cut releases. Tom Bambodil is basically middle earth's "MyStErIoUs WaYs." This is a hot take but I would almost go so far as to say his existence in the world ruins the book, his songs/poetry are terrible and he's just kind of there. He is meant to be a mysterious figure that lends to the overarching mystery of the world, one who has always been around and is so powerful he is basically a god, but doesn't actually give a shit about the world outside of himself or the suffering of others. I see him as a vestige of JRRT's catholicism seeping through, this ultimate force that could end the war but didn't because reasons.

Edit: grammar is hard after wine

[-] GnomeKat 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Tom couldn't save the world. They talk about giving the ring to him at the council. He can't leave his lands so the most he could do is to keep it and hide the ring. But tom is literally incapable of being tempted by power, that sounds like it would make him the perfect person to keep the ring but actually it would mean he would just forget about it almost immediately. Giving him the ring would be more dangerous than yeeting it into the ocean which they also discussed and deemed not a good solution because it would only delay things. The ring is magical after all and WANTS to be found, trying to hide it away in those sorts of ways will never work.

Tom is meant to represent untamed nature of middle earth. He isn't meant to be mysterious or even particularly powerful. He is just Tom.

[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I can appreciate this take, I know he's a popular character and I read somewhere that Jack Black would be the only actor capable of pulling off the role which absolutely makes sense to me (and honestly does make re-reading more entertaining.) I get it, I just don't like him. The world around him is falling to darkness and he just doesn't care. No one really knows what he's capable of outside of his realm because he likes his life with Goldberry and again just doesn't care about anything else. I always saw him as representative of those apolitical people who didn't care enough to stop fascist regimes take over their own country because they only cared about their own day to day life and couldn't be bothered to vote or fight for anything. I'm glad they took him out of the movies, it flows better and fits the tone of everyone coming together in a fellowship to defeat evil. 🤷‍♀️

[-] thechadwick@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

#tomnough/#tomnergy

[-] Bangs42@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

his songs/poetry are terrible

To be fair, Tolkien's songs/poetry are terrible. He was a great writer, an amazing storyteller, and an unparalleled world-builder. But he was not a lyricist or poet by a long shot.

The songs and poems do convey a lot of information and help build the world. But that doesn't mean they're good.

[-] cryostars@lemmyf.uk 21 points 8 months ago

This is a really fucky take, and I love it!

[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Which begs the question: is it fucky or fact-y? Hahaha

[-] cryostars@lemmyf.uk 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You might be right I just personally kinda had the hard opposite reaction to TB. Just thought it was such a neat and mystifying little side story. Just enriched the universe for me. But I love hearing different takes because it's all just fun

[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The question of giving the ring to Bombadil to take it out of the equation is asked and answered at the council of Elrond - at no point he could or would end the war.

[-] Tattorack@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Tom Bombadil is a weird character that appears early in the Hobbit's journey in the first book.

He lives alone in the forest with his wife and lives very carefree, despite potentially being the most powerful entity in all of Middle Earth or Arda in general. The ring has no effect over him, and he didn't turn invisible when he wore it.

Tom Bombadil is just sort of... A thing that happens. It has no real bearing on the story and contributes to almost nothing. He does save the Hobbits, twice; once from some grumpy tree and once more from some restless dead, but cutting him out entirely doesn't change the story of The Lord of the Rings in any way, which is why he's not in the movies.

The only other mention of Tom Bombadil in all three books is Elrond hoping he would've accepted his invitation to his Council.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

I think I stopped reading when they were visiting him hahaha

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Tom is a merry fellow, his coat is blue and his boots are yellow.

[-] SrTobi@feddit.de 16 points 8 months ago

Tom is in there so Tolkien could call dips on the overpowered isekai genre

[-] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I know some consider this basically heresy, but I think the books would have been better off without Tom as well. I love the trilogy to bits, but the first book suffers from pacing issues and the amount of space the Tom Bombadil section takes up is a major contributing factor to that.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 6 points 8 months ago

Merry Derry dee!

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