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submitted 8 months ago by Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

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[-] Ekybio@lemmy.world 126 points 8 months ago

She knows she is doing it and doesnt care.

Like every conservative, they just want queer people dead, unless its their own children.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 94 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She's not a conservative, she's a liberal (in the political science sense of the word, not the USian synonym for leftist).

It's not 100% clear where Rowling's transphobia comes from. She certainly fits into the group of transphobic cis women who have been abused by cis men and concluded that all men are evil, including the ones that want to be women.

But there's also a dynamic which I think you can see with Graham Linehan and Dave Chappelle as well. Born into comfortable middle-class families, well-educated, never really thought about their bog-standard liberalism. Became extremely successful, became accustomed to near universal adoration, made a thoughtless transphobic comment/skit, received criticism and reacted with absolute fury at the idea they could possibly be prejudiced about anything. Because they're liberals, you see.

All three just keep digging that hole deeper rather than face up to the idea that maybe they got something wrong. Linehan's career is over (as is his marriage), Dave Chappelle is hanging on by a thread and flirting with the right, and Rowling doesn't give a shit because she's a billionaire and does not have to give a shit about anything at all.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 8 months ago

She's a blairist, and blairists are only slightly less morally bankrupt thatcherites.

For all their sins, a true European style liberal wouldn't want the state to tell you which restroom you use or what medical treatment they have access to - of course they also believe that trans people that were born into poor families don't deserve access to any medical treatment at all but that's another story.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

She's not a conservative, she's a liberal...

You are mixing definitions.

In fiscal policy, "conservatism" is opposite "liberalism".

In social policy, "conservatism" is opposite "progressivism".

No one here is accusing this homophobic bridge troll of having conservative fiscal policy.

She is socially conservative. And as such, she is a bigot. There can be no defense of her from anyone who is not a bigot.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Her world views are absolutely conservative by today’s standard. Especially her views on gender roles. I mean have you read Harry Potter when you were younger? All important characters that actually shape the plot are male. She went out of her way to give Harry different father figures, believing that‘s what a boy needs when he grows up. But it‘s enough when his mother just loved him. Her female characters are far less layered than the male ones and more often than not reduced to mere tropes. The most prominent one being the pedantically strict auntie, a template which wich gets pasted a lot. There’s also the crazy auntie character and the tomboy. But that‘s pretty much it, really. Hermione herself ranges between overly strict and tomboy throughout the books and the only way she managed to escape this pattern is by… magic plastic surgery to shrink her front teeth. Rowling has clearly defined genders to be a black or white kind of thing for herself and she clearly outlined which gender has to fill what role.

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[-] LadyAutumn 95 points 8 months ago

The amount of people defending her statements in this thread is absolutely disgusting. I wonder why she feels so emboldened as to say such horrific things in public?

[-] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

It’s honestly upsetting to see.

[-] ThatFembyWho 19 points 8 months ago

I think it's great. My block-list is filling out nicely. Hope the trolls keep exposing themselves in such brazen careless fashion :)

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[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 84 points 8 months ago

Ok, fellas: the intention of the author is inaccessible, the intention of the work can be interpreted, her public persona is that of a transphobe who always finds new lows to fall to in her brigade. You can still read HP and recognize that she is a shitty person.

[-] Canadian_anarchist@lemmy.ca 48 points 8 months ago

Pro tip: used book sales do not generate royalties. I bought the full set of HP from a local used bookstore with no guilt.

[-] Aleric@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Acquiring a copy on the open ocean also provides no royalties.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

I will wait until she dies so she can't profit from it. I know it's a drop in the bucket but it's my drop.

She had a choice. Her Twatter account could have just been happy stuff about Harry Potter. She repeatedly choose to create this situation. So fuck her she isn't getting a cent from me.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

My kids are trans/have trans friends and they square this circle by believing that "J.K. Rowling" is Danny Devito's pen name

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

I gotta say, I'm dealing with cognitive dissonance right now. I remember having bookmarked her Harvard commencement speech and listening to it from time to time, admiring the principles and standing up for the good of all people. I felt someone who wrote those books would HAVE to have a keen understanding of right from wrong and fighting the good fight.

So these recent years with her position on this have been confusing and sad for me. I hope she grows and learns from this.

Also unpopular opinion but I stumbled across this article from OP's source which I largely agree with: https://forward.com/culture/480388/please-shut-up-about-the-harry-potter-jew-goblins-antisemitism-jk-rowling/

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[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago

I thought it was pretty well known that the Nazi party destroyed the first thing we would consider a Trans hospital?

She should have done a tiny bit of googling.

Third result on Google was the right wiki page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 77 points 8 months ago

It's almost like conservatives are vile, grotesque garbage-based life forms who thrive on the misery and death of others.

Conservatism is a plague long overdue for a cure.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 71 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Once I found out that Harry Potter glorified the British class system by having it take place at an elite private school where people less privileged than them are looked down upon and even called names I was already turned off... but once I got to the obviously antisemitic goblins, I was done.

I wish it wasn't so damn popular.

Edit: I realize this article isn't about antisemitism. This is just another example of Rowling's bigotry.

[-] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

I don't care about HP, but it's just a standard fairy tale. I read the books to my kids. Stories about knights, kings, princesses, super heroes...pretty much any story in which a normal person can fantasize about being someone who has much more power than they do, have been the stock-in-trade for story-tellers forever. Harry Potter lives a terrible life with his abusive relatives until he gets whisked off to a fancy private school where, it turns out, he is pretty special. Does it glorify the British class system? Sure, in some ways. But, it also undermines it insofar as Harry's friends are mostly from the lower classes, and the villains are mostly "old money" and those who are obsessed with genetic purity. Also, the entrenched authorities like the Ministry of Magic are shown in a rather poor light, with their dementors, cruel bureaucrats, and insanity-inducing prisons. Hermione is meant to symbolize someone who got to Hogwart's based on ability, not birth or connections. So, the story is at least partially about the transformation of the old structures of power from being based on money and birth to being based on ability. It shows British power structures in transition, I would say. What do you think?

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[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's sad that she's likely repressing a LOT of gender dysphoria, but just doubles down on the bigotry and hate. Fuck JK Umbridge.

All direct quotes:

I believe I could have been persuaded to turn myself into the son my father had openly said he’d have preferred.

As I didn’t have a realistic possibility of becoming a man back in the 1980s, it had to be books and music that got me through.

I remember how mentally sexless I felt in youth.

Fortunately for me, I found my own sense of otherness, and my ambivalence about being a woman...

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Oh yikes. Yikes yikes yikes. I would feel bad for her* if she* wasn't such a petty evil person.

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[-] mellowheat@suppo.fi 42 points 8 months ago

JK Rowling is one of the many people who never should've gone to Twitter.

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[-] moitoi@feddit.de 34 points 8 months ago

She is transphobic, ableist, handiphobic, etc.

The saddest is that we will always find a fan boy taking her defense. Seriously, stop! She is garbage.

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[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 32 points 8 months ago

It is an interesting question, is she denying this because she hates jews or because she hates trans

[-] poo@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago
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[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago

The type of Holocaust denial they're suggesting she's doing wouldn't make her antisemitic, because she's not denying its impact on the Jewish people. It just makes her more transphobic, which we already knew.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 8 months ago

A piece of shit said a shitty thing. No need to dwell on it.

[-] mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

I think it's important she's called out. Her works are deep in the hearts of 3 generations and her shitty takes need to be addressed so those fans don't make the same choices.

Just like Bill Cosby, its important for everyone to know how much a skeezebag he is because he shaped the lives of so many people

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[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Lotta dipshits in the comments here, block button is working extra today.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Naturally when people called her out for being wrong she quickly set up a strawman to keep herself from having to admit any ignorance or fault. What a stupid hill she has chosen to die on, she could have been universally beloved if she just kept her shitty views to herself.

[-] markon@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Fuck J.K. Rowling. Femcel. Lol

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