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Outlook (new) (jlai.lu)
submitted 8 months ago by ElCanut@jlai.lu to c/technology@beehaw.org
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[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 140 points 8 months ago

Outlook (new)(1)_final(Copy)

[-] DoctorSpocktopus@lemmy.ca 80 points 8 months ago

The year is 2056. There are 4^2048 characters required to display all of the “New”s for the latest version of Outlook. You’ve just bricked your fourth PC by trying to open an .ics

[-] 404@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 months ago

The year is 2026. The system requirements for Windows 12, shutting out 98% of the all current PCs in use, are set in place to manage Windows 12’s multiple new Outlook versions.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 8 months ago

The year is 2076, we're all now on Outlook OS.

[-] abclop99@beehaw.org 6 points 8 months ago

Outlook (New) OS (NEW!)

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 5 points 8 months ago

Finally those Y2K consultants will get another project

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 63 points 8 months ago

It's still so weird to me that Microsoft - who has their own, now modern, native UI framework for Windows - barely uses it in any of their own applications, instead more and more relying on ~Electron~ Edge WebView2, barely following their own design language. Do they even want people to use Windows?

[-] moonpiedumplings@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago

Edge WebView2

I'm like 90% sure this requires edge to be installed, even though the EU mandated that they make edge uninstallable. So that might be their game here.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

You can install WebView2 separately without the Edge GUI actually.

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[-] B0rax@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago

They don’t even use the windows built in notification system… baffles me every time.

[-] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 7 points 8 months ago

They finally accepted the web as the platform after all these years...

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 8 months ago

Sounds like Google

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's weird they use webviews given they maintain the desktop port of React Native (https://microsoft.github.io/react-native-windows/) which feels a lot better than a web view since it actually uses native UI components rather than just embedding a web browser.

It's gotten to the point where Apple's newer Windows apps (like Apple Music) look better than Microsoft's, because Apple are actually building native WinUI apps.

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[-] ramble81@lemm.ee 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The new Outlook looks like a standalone app version of OWA. They’re probably doing that to unify code bases but it’s seriously lacking some features that Outlook had.

  • Can’t open PST files
  • Sort was borked
  • Couldn’t set caching options for Exchange

And that’s just a few I remember. Though it’s been a good year since I’ve played with it last.

[-] seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de 40 points 8 months ago

Also it forwards your SMPT/IMAP data to Microsoft without your consent.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 23 points 8 months ago

No, no, Microsoft cares about my privacy. I get a daily popup reminding me of this and also asking for me to share my private data with them.

[-] FurtiveFugitive@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

I tried the "New Outlook" a few months ago. There was no longer a Save As option for attachments. All attachments were downloaded to the default downloads directory.

I immediately uninstalled and didn't look back.

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[-] ares35@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

they're just trying to con people into using the new data harvesting mail app by calling it 'outlook'

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My company moved from using Gmail to Outlook and I saw it as an opportunity to migrate to Thunderbird/K9-Mail. Best decision I made, it was a bit rough at the beggining because it needed some extension to Sync contacts but it works much faster than the shitty Outlook app/web.

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

The big one for me is drag/drop, copy/paste, saving of emails and attachments between Outlook and the rest of Windows/Office is completely borked.

I have to keep both versions open at work to keep from going completely insane.

[-] Manalith@midwest.social 7 points 8 months ago

(New) disabled all my inbox rules and since you can't create new rules in the OWA irom what I could see, there was basically no management. Glad I moved my personal stuff to Proton before they kill the standard Outlook app entirely

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[-] Xanatos@mastodon.gamedev.place 5 points 8 months ago

@ramble81 @ElCanut
It is still super slow and feels limited compared to the old one.

Rules as example are really bad since it allows only a single action of given type. So to label a mail with different labels I need a rule per label instead of a single one in the previous Outlook version.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Tasks are missing completely not to speak of all of the advanced task management functions of old outlook.

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[-] flango@lemmy.eco.br 36 points 8 months ago
[-] ElCanut@jlai.lu 14 points 8 months ago

This guy Microsofts

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 months ago

This is completely wrong. The bottom left one should be in all caps

[-] Matomo@lemmy.ml 30 points 8 months ago

And as an added bonus, trying to open this in "Calendar" would show up a blank screen, that closes again, opening again in "Outlook (new)" on Windows 11.

You'd think Microsoft would get the hang of versioning at this point...

[-] seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de 18 points 8 months ago

The office versions are so confusing and frustrating. I just wanna use the goddamn desktop program and not some web app.

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[-] imsodin@infosec.pub 24 points 8 months ago

Outlook (no I don't want it) (still) (really not) (WTF I SAID NO)

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 24 points 8 months ago

I use Outlook (new) at work, and I still sometimes look at the icon in the taskbar and think I have new emails because it has a little "new" badge.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago

It's funny because your new (commercial) outlook and the new (general public) outlook subscribers get from MS is not fully identical.
M$ wanted me to upload my emails.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 22 points 8 months ago

Outlook (the one that uploads your email login password to microsoft, and which markets this as a feature)

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago

Yep that'd the "new" one.
Even for 365 subscribers.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 8 months ago
[-] xyguy@startrek.website 11 points 8 months ago

What do you mean? Its easy!

Teams White and Purple=hotmail

Teams Purple and White=365 for business

Teams Lavender (new)=Electron App

Teams Mauve (with Knuckles)=Teams except you are talking exclusively to Copilot AI

Teams Royal Purple (360 Edition)= Used by the Kansas City Royals baseball team

Teams Sky-Blue and White (Me)=Skype for Business

Teams Periwinkle= Codename for Slack

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 7 points 8 months ago

i was halfway through your comment when i realized it was a joke

[-] xyguy@startrek.website 6 points 8 months ago

Only some of it is sadly.

[-] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

The infuriating thing are the ‘do you want to switch back to old terms?’ messages. Like are you fucking serious what the fuck even is the point of that what the fuck are you even doing with these ‘new’ apps if you’re going to use the same pop ups in both directions basically.

[-] mikelykzit@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

I think that happens when you launch Teams from Start. But that Teams icon is actually the link to the Old Teams with the New Teams having its own also new but separate icon somewhere else in the Start menu...

Because Microsoft.

[-] rinze@infosec.pub 7 points 8 months ago

Damn, I was used to work around shitty stuff on Teams. Are you telling me they're going to push another, different set of bugs on me now?

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 7 points 8 months ago

It's Microsoft. There's always more bugs on the way.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

After the downfall of Mail and eMclient simultaneously putting the clamps down, I'm happily rediscovering Thunderbird

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Same. but I couldn't set up my mfa protected work account in firebird

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[-] dan@upvote.au 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I wish they called it "Outlook Express", like the old free one. This is confusing.

They want to get rid of regular "Outlook", but "Outlook (new)" is missing a LOT of features. It's essentially just a webview that loads the web version, so it doesn't have features like native add-ins and PST files and likely never will. It doesn't look like any other Windows apps either. A good web interface, but a pretty bad app. Why even make it an app at that point? Just tell people to access the site.

[-] starman@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

Same thing with Teams

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

It's a trap!

[-] paholg@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

I'm waiting for Outlook (Taylor's Version).

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Mildlyinfuriating

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