At this point, it's just hard to believe there are many people who are actually undecided. I'm sure there are lots who say they are. And it's really more about Trump than about Biden. Of the people who would ever consider voting for a Democrat, some love Biden, some aren't excited by him, a few hate him. There's a whole spectrum. With Trump, I think it's more binary, even among Republicans. They generally love him or loath him. I'm not sure I've heard anyone recently say "Hmm, that Trump guy says some things I like, but I'm not sure if he has my vote or not."

I guess what I'm saying is that I doubt a debate would change anyone's mind unless one of them said something to really alienate their base. "I want to see them discuss their differences on foreign policy before I decide." I don't think so. It's probably more risk than benefit for either of them.

I don’t think you have to worry about it. While Trump claims he wants to debate, he will refuse when offered, whining about the “liberal media’s” rules that he finds unfair (which will probably include the ability to cut his mic when he resorts to his only strategy of talking over everyone else).

Recently answered this in another thread: by debate Trump means he will childishly shout over anyone he’s on stage with constant bullshit and juvenile rhetoric - no thanks. having seen trump in debates I honestly question anyone silly enough to try, he’ll never ‘debate’, he just gish gallops bullshit until his minders come to change his diapers.

Supreme Court can't make you engage with an insurrectionist. Diapered coward is not a legitimate candidate for office, don't work to legitimize him by going through the motions of what the non-traitors do while running.

"We're gonna pass on Donny's circus. I've got a country to run and also, I'd feel guilty taking his focus away from prep for whichever of his 90 criminal charges he's whining about in court this week"

I do not think this opinion is unpopular lol

It is a catch 22 for Biden he doesn't debate Trump - he looks weak. They hit him on being old and weak. He debates Trump - Trump look like a more legitimate candidate and Trump get to hijack the debate to spew bs.

Not debating is probably the better of the two but both is a loss. The best Biden can do is try to say that Trump won't debate on good faith but that despite being true will only get so much traction.

I completly agree. Trumps not running in good faith.

I actually agree. Analogies about mud wrestling with a pig and playing chess with a pigeon come to mind..

And then there's the added problem of giving him false legitimacy by acting like he's just another legitimate candidate rather than a career criminal fascist conman who should never have been allowed anywhere near ANY public office.

I agree, he should do what Trump did in the primary and skip 'em. Also, I think they would probably hurt him more than help.

Trump is clinically insane

Dementia/syphilis brain rot

I hope to high heaven the debate happens, just so I can watch Trump glitch out, mix up Biden with Obama, and shit his depends on stage.

Biden should challenge Trump to an old fashioned duel. It Biden wins and Trump is killed, he can claim presidential immunity..

Yes, let's undermine the current system by deplatforming those we don't like.

A better option is to have a strong moderator who is able to turn off microphones when candidates go off the question. Make Trump look like an idiot when he only gets a few seconds to speak because he can't put meaningful words together... But Biden would probably have a similar issue.

Or maybe we could get some candidates who are below life expectancy? That might interest people.

nah fuck that, we have to hear about them all year, the least they can do is put on a show for 3 hrs