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BBC Panorama discovered dozens of deepfakes portraying black people as supporting the former president.

Mr Trump has openly courted black voters, who were key to Joe Biden's election win in 2020.

But there's no evidence directly linking these images to Mr Trump's campaign.

The co-founder of Black Voters Matter, a group which encourages black people to vote, said the manipulated images were pushing a "strategic narrative" designed to show Mr Trump as popular in the black community.

A creator of one of the images told the BBC: "I'm not claiming it's accurate."

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[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 108 points 9 months ago

"I'm not a photojournalist," Mr Kaye tells me from his radio studio.

"I'm not out there taking pictures of what's really happening. I'm a storyteller."

"I just happen to be telling fictional stories about real people, but deliberately not telling anyone."

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

What a bleeping piece of bleep.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 88 points 9 months ago

What gets me about these AI bros is that they could use photoshop to fix the minor flaws like Trumps hand having the wrong color under it (apparently white hand on black skin fucks up the algorithm) but they never do.

They are such talentless hacks that even the most trivial work a real photographer do is insurmountable to them.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago

AI be like : white hand on black skin? Insufficient data in training material

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Quagmire: Don't worry, I've got magazines full of that. Giggity.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 3 points 9 months ago

That's how we got two tone Malone!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

they could use photoshop to fix the minor flaws like Trumps hand having the wrong color under it

They could, but that would require them to understand how to use Photoshop rather than just typing in "Trump Black Campaign Popular" into a LLM and weeding out a few images that don't look entirely surreal.

They are such talentless hacks that even the most trivial work a real photographer do is insurmountable to them.

The scary shit about AI imagining is that, eventually, folks are going to get wise and start smoothing these out (by applying actual labor to the images rather than just letting the computer do all the work).

And then you really will have folks posting "Politician In Front Of A Large Crowd of Unlikely Supporters" images that aren't easily debunked or dismissed.

You'll also have a ton of FUD, such that real images that have been touched up by Photoshop are going to routinely be dismissed as AI generated. So someone's inevitably going to come through with the "Joe Biden wasn't really at Event X" leading into "Joe Biden has been dead for 10 days and the White House won't admit it" conspiracies. And that's going to get very ugly relatively quickly.

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I'd actually like to see someone take these photos and use them the opposite way. "Look at Trump giving hand outs to Blacks!"

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

They have zero talent. The only thing we have going for us at this point is how careless and stupid they are with these technologies.

[-] an_onanist@lemmy.world 56 points 9 months ago

You can tell it's fake because his hands are normal-size

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

You can tell it’s fake because he’s interacting warmly with black people.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Trump is happy to be around any black person willing to listen to his racist tirades and still kiss his ass. Because they're "one of the good ones."

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Wasn’t Kanye a trump supporter?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah, and a Hitler-lover. I'm not sure that really endears him to the black community.

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[-] rdyoung@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

You can tell it's fake because he is interacting warmly with ~~black people~~ anyone.

[-] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Multiple hands and fingers are messed up in these pictures which gives them away. We'll really be screwed whenever AI gets the hang of fingers. Or if people generating them become smart enough to fix it afterwards.

[-] GONADS125@feddit.de 8 points 9 months ago

Another giveaway is the writing on the dude's hat (upper left). I always check the hands and any text in the image. Those are dead giveaways.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

I enjoyed the pic (further down the article) with 3 arms. I mean it's so obvious, and your brain says there's something wrong, yet people still believe the bs.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

In this case though? Mostly white Trump voters are believing this. Pretty much everyone else realizes it's bullshit. So it wasn't even worth the time to make the images.

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[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You can actually tell because his hand is messed up. There's no nail on the pinky or pointer and the fingers sre blurring into her shoulder.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 34 points 9 months ago

Douglas said he was mainly worried about the economy and immigration - issues which he felt Trump was more focused on. He said Democratic messaging about Trump's threat to democracy would not motivate him to vote, because he was already disillusioned with the electoral process.

And that's the biggest issue because no matter who Black, Brown or Indigenous people vote for, nothing ever changes for them.

Kimberly Jones said it best even tho she was referring to a different kind of disengagement.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

God, people in this country are so fucking stupid (by design). I was going to say that people like him will find out just how big a mistake electing him would be, then I realized that no matter what happens, people like this will never accept responsibility for anything.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Proof that they think black people are stupid.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I'm not too worried. I think that we have already established, if you're not voting for Joe Biden then You Ain't Black.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Which do you think bothers black people more: That statement or Trump still claiming the Central Park Five are guilty?

How about Trump's recent speech to so-called Black Republicans (Kimmel showed the audience was a sea of white faces): "I can only see black." "Black is my favorite color." "I'm just rapping to you." Do you think that would make black people "love him" like he claims and how they wear his mugshot shirt because they are treated unfairly by the law just like him?

Do you think any of that would make most black people want to vote for Trump?

Because last time, Biden won despite having said that back in 2020. Probably, in part, because he apologized.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

"Trump supporters become their own russian disinformation sources"

BBC, do better. Keep up.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He could easily pose with a bunch of black people. it wouldn't be that difficult. But maybe it would be weird

[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

But then he'd have to touch them.

/SARCASM

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago
[-] Illuminostro@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Because someone would inevitably believe I was taking Trump's side.

[-] sxan@midwest.social 4 points 9 months ago

This isn't reddit yet, but with the last big influx, your caution has become wise.

[-] GooseFinger@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

There's no evidence that suggests these photos were posted by Trump's campaign, and BBC didn't mention who posted them despite having talked to them.

I doubt it's just me, but when I read the headline, I assumed that Trump's campaign posted these photos. How else would it be news worthy? "Trump supporters post AI generated photos of Trump in an attempt to garnish support for Trump" is a normal Tuesday activity for these loons.

This "journalism" is just rage bait, in my opinion.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

It does say that in the bit I copied from the article at the top of this post.

But there's no evidence directly linking these images to Mr Trump's campaign.

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Which is weird, because he kept it on for Stormy.

[-] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Look how happy Trump looks... Wait a second, he isn't even touching his daughter. No way this is real.

"If anybody's voting one way or another because of one photo they see on a Facebook page, that's a problem with that person, not with the post itself."

[-] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago
[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

Because they think people are idiots who will vote for someone because of a picture of them smiling or because they are selling some gaudy sneakers.

Remember, these people think Trump is a genius. For that to be true how dumb must everyone else be?

[-] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

They have no problems getting votes from people with problems

[-] Wahots@pawb.social 6 points 9 months ago

His eyes are looking in different directions while his face is hanging off his body oddly. It looks like AI, lmao.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

His eyes are looking in different directions while his face is hanging off his body oddly.

You're kind of describing the IRL Trump here.

[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He puts so much God damn orange makeup on he looks like Al Jolson singing My Mammy in blackface

https://youtu.be/PIaj7FNHnjQ?feature=shared

[-] SharkMommy 5 points 9 months ago

I doubt people will believe this based on how he has treated minorities in the past. Although this really makes me a bit paranoid over figuring out what is real or not anymore for future use of AI for malicious intent. I worry about the lines being blurred.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Are we calling AI still images “deepfakes” now, or is the press just appropriating a phrase to make AI stills more scary? AFAIK a deepfake is far more dangerous, realistic AI video of the subjects doing and/or saying something wholly out of character or worse. A still image is just…fake.

E: y’all downvoting got anything to say other than disagree?

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