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If Reddit were to revert it's changes to 3rd party apps would you stay on Lemmy or move back to Reddit?

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[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 27 points 1 year ago

Trust is the hardest thing to reclaim once lost, and this isn't the first break. Big social is having problems, it's the natural course of things.

[-] kalipike@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

This is a great point!

[-] ForynGilnith@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

For me, they'd have to

  1. Replace /u/spez
  2. Implement some sort of publicly auditable accountability re: shadowbans and database-level comment editing
  3. Open-source significant parts of their platform.

I have zero expectation that any of these things will happen. The most healthy way forward, for an open and free internet, is the meritocracy of the fediverse.

[-] jax@lemmy.cloudhub.social 9 points 1 year ago

Did he get caught editing comments again? And the shadowbanning?

[-] ForynGilnith@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not recently... I'm just completely out trust and benefit of the doubt based on the various controversies and where their (Tencent) money is coming from.

[-] cyberic@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

Personally, I don't see myself going back. I'll just chill with my new community here.

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[-] kalipike@lemmy.one 16 points 1 year ago

The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

Even if they did, I think a lot of redditors have been fed up with some things with Reddit (both the company and the first-party app) for a while.

Of course, there will be people who just don't care and will continue to go about their redditing as usual, and those who will go back. A fair number of my close friends don't care at all as they use the first-party app, have no complaints, don't moderate any subreddits, and don't follow the Internet news.

I would love to see my primary communities move over to federated social platforms. It reminds me of the Web1.0 and earlier Web2.0 days.

[-] jax@lemmy.cloudhub.social 5 points 1 year ago

The CEO just tripled down and said they are not changing their intended API pricing regardless of how many subs and users go dark.

Link? That's not good news :/

[-] Gloccu@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I think that's from his AMA response

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[-] doctortofu@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago

Not just that, they also announced their intent to turn reddit into an even more ad-infested hellhole: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads

This is the future of reddit in the official app everyone: https://www.redditinc.com/assets/images/site/image2.gif

[-] kalipike@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Ugh, that kind of makes me want to vomit. What a shame.

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[-] roseh 12 points 1 year ago

I already like the community here more

[-] sparklingsquirrel@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Same. I'll definitely stay here.

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[-] Anon2971@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't care. The irreversable damage is done.

Reddit's handling of the API change criticisms showed me how little they care about the community that keeps them afloat. The way the CEO's AMA pretty much ignored all criticism of the API changes (including comments asking why the new price is so extortionately expensive) whilst lying about Apollo's developer threatening them.... They've shown their real colours.

I don't want to use a platform prioritising profits above everything else. I used Reddit for over a decade and they've eradicated my trust in a few days.

Reddit as a company have clearly demonstrated their philosophy as a social media platform is make money. Even if they reverse the decision, at this point it'd clearly be a PR move to save their sinking reputation rather than coming from a place of genuine constructive dialogue.

Its a shame, but at the same time I'm excited to see where things go from here. Reddit's always had a bit of a quality control problem due to its sheer volume of content. Maybe this mass user exodus will lead to an alternative community discussion platform with a smaller, more refined, engaged userbase.

I'm actually excited to see where things go from here to be honest. Maybe Reddit will become a home of pointless content like memes whilst deeper discussion happens elsewhere. Maybe that'd be better, actually

[-] robocop@fedia.io 9 points 1 year ago

They've already posted that they're going to "double down" on ads on their platform and they are not going to back down on the API rules: https://www.redditinc.com/blog/investing-in-what-makes-reddit-unique-introducing-contextual-keyword-targeting-and-product-ads

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 year ago

I’ve returned to Reddit from Lemmy in the past, but this time it’s different. There are enough people posting content here now that it feels like a community (and not just a few nerds hoping it will take off). Never thought I’d say this but, thanks Spez for creating such a vibrant community.

[-] neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space 7 points 1 year ago

It wouldn't matter at all, because it's just a matter of time before they implement such features and don't back down.

They'll just continue shit-testing us until the blowback isn't enormous if they go this route.

[-] 108beads@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Nope. Everyone makes mistakes. But you don't go full Armageddon on the people whose blood, sweat & tears built you up from diddly, and then say "oopsie." It don't work like that, Spez. Have fun with your IPO.

[-] ForynGilnith@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well said - my patience ran out about 6 or 7 "mistakes" ago. I'm never going back.

[-] Kettellkorn@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

I think if this works out I may switch permanently if they back out. If not I will only use Reddit as the occasional info lookup and use this as my “social media”

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[-] artic@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

use both lemmy and reddit

[-] TootSweet@latte.isnot.coffee 6 points 1 year ago

I don't trust Reddit any more. I made a comment elsewhere about why.

[-] hbar@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I've fully committed to replacing reddit in my life, I'm trying to be active here and pointing people to Lemmy when I can. Reddit has made it clear they dont care about users. they get content for free, moderation for free, etc. They pissed on their base and deserve a mass exodus. I just hope people follow through.

[-] Anissem@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I prefer the smaller crowd here. Reddit just feels like a mall these days. Between all the bullshit, tencent, ads and assholes, I’m not looking back.

[-] dr_doorknob@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I would stay on both. Keep reddit just for the more specific subreddits I like that aren't big here.

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[-] jax@lemmy.cloudhub.social 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think I'll go back except for niche content/communities I don't expect to see here for a while.

[-] RedPander@lemmy.rogers-net.com 4 points 1 year ago

For me at this point I think Steve Huffman would need to step down along with a step back of their changes. I can't trust the platform given his track record.

[-] NoxiousPluK 4 points 1 year ago

I've overwritten and deleted all my comments and posts and nuked my account. This is my new home.

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I'd go back. I notice the bot content has gotten bad on Reddit, but the communities I follow are still okay.

[-] Dubois_arache 4 points 1 year ago

Stay! And participate less in their site, so they note the change.

[-] pinwurm@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I'm seeing how things play out.

I certainly like Lemmy and I could very well use both for a while. I'm mostly worried my favorite subs (especially my local City sub) won't migrate or be an active enough group here. Time will tell. I want to follow the community, not the platform.

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[-] Vivi@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I haven’t been a daily Reddit user for a long time, if Apollo stayed active and useable I’d keep it loaded on my phone but I’m into the vibe on lemmy and want to be part of it.

[-] gabuwu@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

Lemmy is too good to leave. I don't think I'm alone either. I was wanting an alternative for a while.

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