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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Michael Meyden is accused of making the smoothies with benzodiazepine, a drug typically prescribed for anxiety, according to a probable cause affidavit.

An Oregon man accused of spiking smoothies with sedatives and giving them to his daughter’s pre-teen friends has been charged with multiple felonies, according to court documents.

Michael Meyden, 57, of Lake Oswego, allegedly drugged three of his daughter’s friends while they slept over on the night of Aug. 25, 2023, according to court documents and a probable cause affidavit filed this week in Clackamas County.

The girls, all 12 years old, were hospitalized and tested positive for benzodiazepine, described in the affidavit as a drug typically prescribed for anxiety, with common prescriptions under the names Valium, Xanax and Klonopin. Benzodiazepines are a depressant that produces sedation, sleepiness and a relaxed mood, the affidavit said.

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[-] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 199 points 6 months ago

This seems to be more serious that what have been suggested by other comments.

Luckily one of the girls didn't like the smoothie and didn't take much. She didn't fall into deep sleep and was the one who suspected something fishy going on when the man kept coming to the basement. The man even tried to separate the girls. Again, the girl protected her friends by pulling them closer to her. She finally managed to contact her family friend, when the man went outside, messaging them to come and bring her home, and once she was saved, the other families followed suit.

Given a different scenario where everyone took the smoothies, I speculate with high degree of confidence someone would get sexually assaulted or worse.

[-] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

And this is why we don’t allow our kids to participate in sleep overs.

Edit: Downvote all you want, sleepovers are weird and too risky.

Edit 2: Ok I wasn’t going to include this context but since you are all so ignorant I feel the need to. My son went on a sleep over when he was 14 and ended up getting molested. So for the rest of my kids (yes they are teen girls), there is a zero sleep over policy.

So for all of you judgmental assholes, fuck off.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 85 points 6 months ago

And this is why you have the weird kids who can't function

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago

Sleepovers were a huge part of my childhood.

Waking up in the morning at your best friends house and playing Nintendo with the volume on the tv way down before their parents are awake who then make us pancakes are core memories.

Should be a said though that my friends parents were reasonable close friends with my own parents and my friends slept over at my place regularly as well.

You raise your kids however you want but don’t underestimate the small experience of independence a sleepover can give a child.

[-] ammonium@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago

Do you also not allow your kids to set foot in a car? Much more dangerous than sleepovers

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago

Kids get abducted if you allow them to go outside, never let them go outside.

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[-] Encode1307@lemm.ee 38 points 6 months ago

That's not the solution

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago

Your child is going to hate you for smothering them and unfairly limiiting their ability to be a child because of your misplaced anxieties. This sort of shit is an exception to the normal, and your hurting your children by cowering in fear over something that's a very low probability.

I hope you don't drive your kids anywhere, that's waaaaaaay too risky and dangerous for them if you think sleepovers are risky.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Weirdly specific. I had an argument about this exact thing on a post a few weeks ago. There was someone who had a friend who ~~lost~~ was divorced by his wife (phrasing issue) and couldn't understand why other parents were wary of him hosting a sleepover for his daughter. He had done so many times as a married man but suddenly couldn't.

So the argument was about how women in general, especially parents of little girls, can't blindly trust every man they meet. There were some salty males insisting that line of logic is sexist.

Anyway, banning all sleepovers isn't the solution. Properly chaperoned sleepovers with two parents present should be fine.

[Edit: Yes, I realize that it's technically sexist. The fact that it is is beside the point that it's necessary for women to be wary of men. If you don't understand why, ask literally any woman in your life to explain it for you]

[Edit #2: I'm not engaging anyone else on the subject from this point. I have successfully fallen into the same trap of holding dudes' hands who don't understand that strange men do, in fact, pose a risk to women, and now my morning has been wasted.

I already elaborated this point more than enough. If you still feel the need to express how this offends you after you read down this thread, I would urge you to look elsewhere into women's perspectives on the subject before you just handwave it like these guys are trying to do.]

[-] ammonium@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Explain to me how that is not sexist?

Here's the Oxford Dictionary of sexism:

sexism /ˈsɛksɪz(ə)m / ▸ noun [mass noun] prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex: sexism in language is an offensive reminder of the way the culture sees women.

To burst your bubble, some of the most famous rapists and child molesters I know of had their wives help them. Women can be monsters too.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

99% of sexual assault cases are perpetrated by men, and 91% of the victims are women

I really don't wish to rehash this. For the sake of simplicity, yes. It fits the technical definition of sexism. However, arguing that women shouldn't be wary of men they don't know because it might hurt someone's feelings is completely ridiculous, especially when the thing at stake is a woman or girl's safety.

I understand, believe me because I had to reassure several people multiple times, that women can also be monsters. That doesn't change the fact that perpetrators of sexual assault cases are overwhelmingly men.

This cannot be overstated. Even sexual assault against men is perpetrated 86% of the time by other men. See Page 32

I hesitate to even engage you on this because there's a fine line between logically arriving at the point that it is in fact sexist, and blindly extending the claim to the connotation that discrimination in that sense shouldn't exist at all. If you are going to argue the latter, I'm not going any further than this.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

It is a difficult problem because using statistics like that you end up supporting people who say you should be wary of blacks because 14% of the population is black yet commit 53% of the murders.

Imo it's more important to look at the percentage of crime in general. Googling says around 12,000 pedos out of 330 million people. If you live your life by your statistics you shouldn't let your kids inside a car. Driving them to a sleepover is far more dangerous than the sleepover.

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[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Yes, yes, restrict and police rather than educate and enable personal agency. All children need is to live in an impermeable bubble of perfect safety, not learn any life skills at all... 🤦🏼‍♂️

Fucksake. Your kids are going to be stunted adults that require $$$$ of therapy to function in the real world. Congrats.

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[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

People are down voting you, but I've heard about a lot of inappropriate behavior at sleepovers from people close to me, boys and girls. Me and my siblings were not allowed to go to sleepovers. Nobody thought we were weird. Once my parents grew a relationship with a friend's parents, that rule got broken once in a while. Other than that, we were allowed to invite a friend over for a sleepover if we wanted one 🤷🏼‍♀️ I'm an adult now with my own child, and I'm really glad my parents protected me. I will have the same rule

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Genuine question, what makes your house safer for a sleepover than other parents'? Of course you know your house is safe, but other parents could feel the same way.

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[-] poprocks@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You're their parent, who cares what rando internet strangers think. You do what you feel is best for your kids.

[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

This is like the plot of the movie Happiness.

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[-] StereoTrespasser@lemmy.world 152 points 6 months ago

I don’t feel safe. I might not respond but please come get me

My God, I would have an absolute panic attack if my kid ever texted me this. I would be shaking with fear and rage the entire drive over.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

Id be at that door in 10 mins with a felony tucked in my waistband.

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 41 points 6 months ago

That could be phrases differently.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's completely unreasonable too.

Buy a proper holster, people, it's stylish and functional 😤

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[-] UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone 11 points 6 months ago

As a primary (elementary) teacher I once had a grade 2 kid with scolded fingers from her mum. My principal ordered me to go home and paid for a taxi that day. Fortunately I have never crossed paths with that mother again.

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 115 points 6 months ago

Burying the lede here:

"Eventually two parents went to Mayden’s home to get the other two girls, but Meyden was reluctant to let them leave, the affidavit said. "

The guy that drugged the girls didn't want them to leave with their parents?!

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 79 points 6 months ago

I think he was expecting the benzos to wear off before parents had any chance to inspect their kids. They showed up too early, and the effects of the benzos would have been quite evident, and he'd be in a fuckload of trouble. Which is exactly what's happening.

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[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 70 points 6 months ago

Any explanation for this is going to be horrible

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 111 points 6 months ago

Not that actually doing it isn’t absolutely horrible but wait till you have children, at about 7yo they invite 8 of their friends in your house and it’s pouring outside.

The idea of sedating them will eventually come in mind. Then obviously you’ll discard it.

And come the moment of cleaning the mess they inevitably leave you’ll wonder if you should have done it.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, there's a big difference between using melatonin as a "sedative" so they don't stay up all night and wreck the house, and using a powerful sedative to knock them out and abuse them.
Granted, I am NOT advocating using melatonin on other people's kids, especially without consent from the parents, but one of those scenarios is considerably more evil than the other.
This guy gave the kids adult anxiety meds in smoothies, that makes this particular scenario much worse than a misguided attempt to make them go to bed early.

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 46 points 6 months ago

The motive here appears to be much more sinister. If you haven't read the article in full...

After Meyden went back upstairs, the third girl, frightened for her friend who had been sleeping heavily, again pulled close to her, the affidavit said.

Meyden returned a second time and again tried to separate the girls from each other. He also put his finger underneath the nose of the girl who pretended to be sleeping “as if to see if she was soundly asleep, he then waved his hand in front of her face,” she told police, according to the affidavit.

Meyden then went outside through a sliding glass door and the girl frantically began calling and texting her parents and friends to pick her up.

[-] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

Giving any psychoactive substance to anyone and especially kids without a specific prescription from a licensed practician is absolutely insane.

Beside recreational drugs when an adult wishes to obviously.

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[-] PrincessLeiasCat@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

One girl drank two cups, and another girl drank one cup and a third said she did not like the smoothies and barely drank any at all. It was unclear how many smoothies Meyden’s daughter drank, but one girl told police it appeared to be a significant amount, the affidavit said.

One girl drank at least twice as much as the others, and the guy drugged his own daughter, too. What a piece of shit.

A girl who told police she drank two smoothies said she began to feel woozy, hot and clumsy, shortly after finishing the second smoothie. She said she “blacked out” and slipped into a “thick, deep sleep” she never experienced before, the affidavit said.

I know they’re only 12, but how much did he put in there I wonder?

And did the girl who didn’t drink much of the smoothie just not like the flavor or whatever, or did she think it tasted weird because she could taste whatever he spiked it with?

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[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 36 points 6 months ago

Shitty article writing. He didn't spike their drinks with 'benzodiazepine', he spiked them with 'a benzodiazepine'.

'Benzodiazepine' isn't any specific drug, it's a structural class of drugs

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 11 points 6 months ago

Looks like you're right. I was expecting it to be like amphetamine, where it's both a class and a specific compound.

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[-] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

This was recently in an episode of The Bear.

Catering a party of hyperactive kids and made spiked smoothies to sedate them. Wow.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Bill Cosby is NOT a role model!

[-] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 11 points 6 months ago

That is seriously fucked up.

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