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I just bought a new PC, based on Lenovo Legion gaming desktop. It comes with 2 USB port in the front, 4 regular USB port in the back + 1 USB-C port. That's a total of 7 USB slots.

It's been like 2 decades that every possible hardware device comes with an USB interface. Keyboard, mouse, joystick, hard-drive, memory stick, headset, webcam, spot/photo camera, and many others.

Of course it's my fault, I should have thought about USB connectors when shopping for a new PC and check before buying. but seriously, 7 USB slots is so few compared to all the device I have using USB

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[-] glimse@lemmy.world 132 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Answer: the vast majority of people don't use 7 USB devices at a time. You are an outlier and should have purchased accordingly

Thank you. I was getting very confused.

7 ports seems like heaps. How could anyone use that many at once.

[-] potustheplant@feddit.nl 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Keyboard, mouse, usb extension to have a port on my desk, wireless charger, dac, xbox wireless controller dongle and a usb microphone. That's 7 and I'd use an 8th port to charge my vr headset. So yeah, it's not that hard to use 7 ports at once.

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[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

I mostly use 3, sometimes 4 or 5 at most.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I have 4 things plugged in permanently (mouse, keyboard, audio interface, wireless headset receiver). It used to be 5 but I haven't used my wireless controller since I built this PC.

I have a midi keyboard I plug into the front when I'm going to use it. And a USB cable in the drawer if I ever need to plug my phone in (which otherwise sits on a wireless charger plugged into AC)

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

My bedroom media pc (old-ass enterprise tower) has 8 on the back and 5 on the front. So 13 usb ports. It doesn’t have any wireless anything, physical ports only, and there’s no room to add internal cards for it, but plenty of usb ports for dongles!

I use 3 of those ports at most (I use Ethernet, since it’s my acquisition machine, or it’d be 4), and 2 are for keyboards and mice (one handheld with touchpad, the other a normal set).

I’m struggling to even come up with 7 things that would all need to be plugged in together.. I guess webcam, mouse and keyboard if they can’t run off a single port, and headset maybe if you got one that bypasses the audio jacks for whatever reason.. but that’s still only 4.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

There's plenty of legitimate reasons to need a ton of USB ports but it's not on the PC manufacturer to appease the edge cases like OP.

It's like getting confused why your house doesn't have a 20amp outlet to the dining room for your 48U server rack.

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[-] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 94 points 1 year ago

7 USB ports seems like a decent amount, to me.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 68 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Those modern high speed USB controllers are not free. They used up available PCIe lanes. The more you add the less PCIe lanes available in the motherboard.

If you have a lot of low speed USB peripherals, just buy some large USB 2.0 hubs so you can reserve the high speed ports for high speed applications such as external disks.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

7 seems like a pretty good amount but if you need more, you can always add them if you have a free slot (if not, there's always hubs). Alternately, you could build your own next time you need to upgrade.

[-] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

There are USB headers on EVERY motherboard most have 2 usb 2.0 that can be expanded into 4 usb each

[-] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You can get an USB hub to expand that number as needed. With USB 3.2 ports you can connect all of the things you listed over a single port without any performance issues.

You could literally connect hundreds of devices to those ports, if needed.

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Sure, but just like the PCIe USB port option, it's quite frustrating to add another device to a new PC.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

You're the one with exorbitant usb needs. That means you'll be the one who expansions are made for. I don't have the stats in front of me, but I'd wager the vast vast majority of pc users don't use beyond 4.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Most people will only need 3-4 usb ports…. Ever.

1-2 for the KBM, another for a printer (which are increasingly WiFi enabled,) and another for a sub stick.

Hubs aren’t that difficult and a single cable will look neater to your desk anyhow. Run your KbM/joysticks to the hub instead. (And you can get some 3m VHB tape, or far less permanently, the 3m command adhesive that’s double sided, to mount it somewhere like the back of the KB tray.)

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I've got 7 USB ports on my PC and every single one of them is used. I don't need anymore at the moment but I mean this adds up fast.

  1. Webcam
  2. Speakers
  3. Mouse
  4. Keyboard
  5. SSD
  6. HDD
  7. 4-Slot USB Hub
  8. Memory Card Reader
  9. Gaming Controller
  10. Wireless Headset Dongle
  11. Studio Microphone

Then I've got my HOTAS. I just unplug my controller and plug that in to use instead.

[-] Mesophar@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

This seems like a lot, though. Like, they are all reasonable items! But it seems more like a niche/enthusiasts situation, which would require a niche/enthusiasm solution.

Not saying it wouldn't be nice to have more usb as standard, but most decent motherboards I've checked out have around 4 2.0 slots, 2-4 3.0 slots, and 0-2 C slots. Just for back panel I/O

6-ish slots seems fine for most uses

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Speakers > Why USB instead of optical/aux?

SSD, HDD, Memory card reader > Do you use all of them every day?

Headset + microphone > Why not combine/do you use both every day?

And I mean, you already have a hub, worst case if it's full just get a second one or one with more slots...

[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Speakers - It's both. They're RGB.

Storage - Yep. Everyday. HDD is media, SSD is games, memory card reader for my microSD for lemmy posts.

Headset + microphone - Yes I do use them everyday and no they cannot be combined. The microphone is studio quality. The headset has good audio but no headset on this earth has microphone quality comparable to a stand alone recording microphone.

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[-] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 year ago

I guess I've been using laptops for so long, the concept of not having a USB hub seems alien to me. But they are really cheap and you just need to plug them in (so much easier than installing a PCIe card).

Also some peripharals come with addition USB ports. My monitors provide 3 USB-A ports each when connected over USB-C. They are only USB 2.0 ports but that's perfect for plugging in the mouse and keyboard.

[-] vividspecter@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

You bought a prebuilt system, which in general tend to not be very expandable and cut corners in various ways because they target the average customer, and not the enthusiast.

On a similar note, my pet peeve is the limited number of pcie slots in modern motherboards (and to a lesser extent, pcie lanes), but this is also understandable given the trend away from using those ports (except for GPUs).

[-] volvoxvsmarla@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

I don't know if this is a gaming PC or high end etc, but for me 7 USB slots is a lot. I usually need 2, in most extreme situations I would need 4 I think. So maybe the PC is just designed for an average person who is not too tech savvy? I have to think really hard about what I would do with 7 slots.

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

I have to think really hard about what I would do with 7 slots.

This is roughly what is plugged to my PC

  • Keyboard,

  • Mouse

  • Headset

  • Joystick

  • Rudder pedals for flight sim (OK that one is a bit specific)

  • Audio interface (OK another one a bit specific)

  • Webcam (which isn't even always on)

  • USB 2 wire to load/connect some devices

  • USB C loose wire to load/connect some device

  • USB stick/hard drive on a case by case basis

[-] kurcatovium@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Why would you need usb headset when you have audio interface?

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Audio interface is great to plug the guitar to the PC, and is used when I put sound the speaker. Headset (which is actually a wireless USB, It would make sense to update to Bluetooth) is used when doing voice call/chat(A decade back, I was living abroad, and playing TTRPG through voice chat, got the habit to use a wireless USB headset at this time, but indeed, it's something I could rationalize considering that I don't use it much anymore)

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[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Because the USB standard allows the number of USB ports to be significantly expanded through the use of hubs.

[-] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

Try finding a simple 8 port USB hub with USB-C. It's a shitshow too!

[-] massivefailure@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

USB-C is a shitshow, period. Whoever invented that garbage needs to be fired. Out of a cannon. Into the sun.

Depending on just the cable I plug in (all else exactly the same, same PC, same port, same electrical plug, etc), I get fast speed (from PC) and charging (from a power outlet) on device 1 and slow speed and charging on device 2, and another cable gets me exactly the opposite. And others, slow speed and fast charging or vice versa.

What the fuck.

This is not the behavior of a fucking "standard". Meanwhile, microUSB just fucking worked regardless of which of the tons of cables I used, all exactly the same.

USB-C needs to fucking die. Oh, but boohoo, people had to figure out which direction to plug in a microUSB cable. Cry me a fucking river, nobody cares, that's not a real problem.

[-] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I like USB-C. The connector is significantly better than micro USB. It forms a tighter connection and can be plugged in in either direction. It allows for significantly faster charging and significantly higher data rates than micro USB. But it is a jack of all trades with a fairly loose standard, so manufacturers can implement what attributes they see fit. Overall, I think it's a big improvement.

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I mean... That one's on you, you should have looked at the specs to make sure the PC fit your needs and could have built one yourself (especially if you're into flight sims, why waste money for sub par tech?)...

My motherboard has more ports than your whole PC plus I've got two ports at the front...

[-] cheesorist@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

that depends on what you bought, my motherboard has 10 in the back, and my case has 5 most are usb 3

granted my case and mobo are both 250 usd individually

[-] manualoverride@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Sorry @Ziggurat but you might be the one behind the times; keyboard/mouse/headset - Bluetooth, External Hard drive/ memory stick - cloud/ WiFi, camera - WiFi/Bluetooth, Webcam is still USB.

The true connector crime here is that single USB-C, any new PC should have more than that.

[-] pycorax@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Bluetooth keyboard and mice add latency which isn't great for gaming. Bluetooth headsets aren't great either since audio quality drops when you use the mic on it. Plus there's latency too.

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[-] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 9 points 1 year ago

My x570 motherboard has like 10 usb ports lol. And then my case has 2 more on the front. I think Lenovo just sucks lol. They are the OEM for their desktop motherboards right? Like Dell?

[-] lud@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

My desktop has 12 USB ports with the option of installing quite a few more by using the internal headers.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It all depends on the case and mother board you buy.

[-] Nemo@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

That's why I built my own PC, get it the way I want it.

Though even I rarely used more than 8 at a time.

  1. mouse and keyboard
  2. wifi antenna
  3. printer cable
  4. webcam (only sometimes)

the CD reader takes two, one for power and one for data, but that's only used rarely

if I'm playing games with my kids that's four controllers at most, and I don't leave those plugged in

[-] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

A WiFi antenna doesn't plug into a USB port, it screws directly into the WiFi card. Or do you mean you have a USB WiFi card, instead of an internal one?

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of my PCs didn't come with wifi on the motherboard so wifi is through an USB antenna, nothing unusual with that...

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[-] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Could be one of those adapters with an antenna attached, so it looks like one big antenna.

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[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Install a PCIe USB expansion card. Will give you an extra 4-8 slots.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Nice counting. Now let's do SATA ports and fan power connections. only 3 or 4 for 20 years. What's up with that?!?

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[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

You can buy pcie usb controllers to give you more ports.

Unless it's like the stupid HP Omens where the motherboard has only one slot and that's for the graphics card.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Usb PCIe cards are a thing.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

As well as USB hubs. It’s generally true that the rear USBs are hard to reach anyhow, amd hubs on the desk are more convenient and offer better cable management than a tower case offers anyhow.

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[-] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Build your own PC bro. Its dead simple. And you can choose a mobo with lots of usb ports. You fucked up buying a prebuilt

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