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[-] darthsid@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Watch how they steadily increase the price now (which they’ve already been doing)

[-] ripley@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

It went up like four bucks this month for me this past month. I feel like I am in a no-win situation. I want to support the authors of the videos and music I like, make the platform sustainable, and I hate ads and data harvesting. There doesn't seem to be reasonable way to satisfy all three objectives (or even two).

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

I'm mostly in the same boat with supporting the creators, however I don't really like Google to be honest. I end up supporting creators outside the platform, such as via Patreon or by watching on Nebula. Most of my YT consumption is done via NewPipe, Piped and Freetube

There's a little part of me that likes the fact that YouTube is burning a hole in Google's finances tbh lol

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Patreon for the ones you really like, and substituting watching my own content on Plex is how I’m weening myself off YouTube.

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[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

If it wasn't as freaking high as it is there would be a lot more premium users. Every other streaming service is full of professionally made movies and TV shows. YouTube is absolutely chock-full of berate crap where they're barely paying anybody but the top 1%. It's a grift. It should be priced with the absolute cheapest services out there.

[-] Technofrood@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago

The price makes a little more sense if you factor in it also includes YouTube music, which puts it more on par with a premium Spotify subscription, with the benefit of no ads on YouTube. Which is basically how I got YouTube premium, I was already paying a monthly fee for Google Play music as it was at the time, and the upgrade to add YouTube premium was only £2 extra a month.

[-] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Sure but a LOT of us don’t want the music service and have never used it once. People like me aren’t costing them a penny on music and if they offered a plan without music I’d jump in an instant.

[-] EineCat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is my issue. I have and love Apple Music and do not want to pay for another music service. If YT gave me an option for an ad-free YT without music for only like $3 or $5 a month, I’d jump on it. For now, I’ll continue using uBlock Origin and SmartTube.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I own my music though, I don't want to rent it.

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[-] elgordio@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

While YouTube doesn’t commission, much, content it does store disproportionately more data. A streaming site has maybe 1,000,000 hours of content. That amount of content is uploaded to YouTube every day. It’s a totally different business model.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

And, I don't think I should be the one paying for that.

They should charge minor storage fees to the creators and uploaders. You pay to put your content up there if people watch it you get paid back as many multiples as necessary. It would be a fantastic method to reduce the amount of trash video stored up there that nobody ever watches.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 1 year ago

It turns out creators don't want to pay for the storage.

[-] linearchaos@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'd say we're at an impasse, but if I don't buy premium and I don't watch ads in their content, they're not getting paid.

If they paid a pittance to keep their storage and it pushed their quality up and push the price of premium down more people would watch and they'd make a hell of a lot more money.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 year ago

But let's be honest, you'd probably block their ads if they self hosted.

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[-] BorisBoreUs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It would be a hard-sell these days to charge someone to gamble on whether or not their content is going to get any views. My guess is that the conent economy et al is like an iceburg, it takes a lot to float it but only a little bit is worth seeing the light of day. Ie, you have to host a ton of garbage to be able to sift out the gems.

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[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 29 points 1 year ago

And it still doesn't have sponsorblock. Free is more feature rich than paid. Hahaha

[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Does that work on your phone?

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

Yes revanced has it, and some other clients too I think

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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

This "Article" is short on details, And according to this article Google did not reveal data about subscriptions in the recent earnings call. I can only think this a PR piece to fluff up Google's shares and discourage critics. Unless Google can be confident enough to explain which regions added subscribers and how much of such a subscription was part of a bundle... We can't conclude that their anti-adblocking measures and price hikes were successful.

Example: India would fluff up numbers without adding as much revenue (bundles are common and subscription prices are low) than NA or EU

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Grayjay, revanced, libretube, newpipe, youtube piped, youtube invidious, and uBlock origin 👀

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

That's over a billion dollars a month. If they're still operating at a loss with all that then it's their own incompetence at fault.

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[-] JPSound@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Found the corporate account. Fuck youtube. Steal that shit.

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] porkchop@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I watch on my television tho

[-] Sasha 14 points 1 year ago
[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 6 points 1 year ago

Wish there is was a webOS variant for LGs

[-] HeyLow 7 points 1 year ago

There is, you can enable dev mode and install the homebrew channel, here's a guide for Dev Mode and here's a guide for the Homebrew Channel

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[-] flumph@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I want the creators I watch on YouTube to continue to get paid, both from YouTube and their sponsors. My contributions through premium are sliver of what they see, but if everyone stopped supporting them in that way, the total would be zero.

I back some of them on Patreon where I can, but it's not economically feasible for me to back them all in such a way.

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How many of those subscribers are like me, definitely watching YouTube from Argentina.

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[-] Kyouki@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

marketing tactics to get even more to subscribe, ala "x amount of people got it so it must be good".

Yet it feels like I got better things to spend it on, as I don't watch much anymore due to algorithm changes making me miss the prior new music uploads and or newer channels to discover.

Every refresh contains the same or prior channels watched with the same content shuffled or worse, suggest old dated watched videos.

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile I'm thinking "ey, sounds like they're getting enough money, now maybe they can leave me the fuck alone."

[-] BearGun@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago

"Enough money" is not a concept they understand unfortunately

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I do have YouTube Premium, because between the ad-free movies and TV shows and the music, the family sharing option was cheaper than Spotify and a couple of streaming services we gave up, and the few new content creators I do watch get paid more. But if they keep raising the price, I'll look for something else.

[-] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

For me, almost all the media I consume is YouTube so I’m fine paying up to a point but if it goes past 20 without a heap more features I’m out. I was already shocked they took away “continue watching” from normal users.

Revanced all the way, baby!

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[-] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah I got it after some other lemming told me that you can get it for cheap with a family account. I pay 4 bucks per month now which apparently also supports YouTubers more than watching ads on their videos.

[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Been doing the same for years. Absolutely worth it.

[-] celerate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I looked at it. The features aren't worth the price at all.

[-] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Stockholm syndrome at its finest.

[-] porkchop@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago

How so?

  • I enjoy so many cooking shows, tech nerds, and drag queens that post videos that make me happy on YouTube.
  • I watch on my tv primarily
  • I’m so so so happy to support the individual creators who pour their life and so much love into their work, premium pays them more per view than ad-supported views.
  • I share with some friends, and they share their logins with me. Overall, my monthly cost for video services is low.
  • Usenet everything else ;)
[-] celerate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

This is the first I'm hearing about the content creators getting paid out of the deal. YouTube needs to do a better job of letting people know this.

[-] lapping6596@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They really do. The only place I hear anyone talk about it is LTT and only during the wan show. It's a major reason I have premium despite being the type of person who uses GrapheneOS.

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[-] GilgameshCatBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because YouTube is a shit company that fleeces all of the content creators they’d be nowhere without- while simultaneously giving the middle finger to everyone that uses their service.

Yet amid all the whining and complaining about seemingly ALL of their business practices on a daily basis- we apparently have 100 million people willing to give them MORE money so they can continue abusing everyone that so much as even looks in their general direction.

[-] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[-] porkchop@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why so negative? Go outside and get some sun, honey

[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I’ll be honest. I did. With a VPN. It costs me $2.50 a month.

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I live in a place where its just $2.50. No YouTube ads ever is great.

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I get this same service but for free :3

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[-] mihies@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I might even consider it out if they weren't selling me music as well and if there was a family option (in my country). And no, I wouldn't consider VPN as I won't do extra work to be able to pay google.

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