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[-] ichmagrum@feddit.de 62 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hm, I do remember that Monopoly's actual rules are better than most people's house rules. Maybe the Uno people have a point?

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 85 points 9 months ago

The two main rules that get ignored are 1. Free Parking is exactly that, you don't get anything for landing on it, and 2. If you land on an unowned property and decide not to buy, it immediately goes up for auction. Ignoring those rules drags the game out forever. It's supposed to be relatively short and brutal.

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 31 points 9 months ago

I never caught that second one and I can immediately see it's benefit. That would speed the game up significantly.

[-] Radicaldog@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Auctions also mean that if your opponents overextend into double digits cash, you can buy anything that gets landed on for their balance plus 1. Very tasty to get dark blues for less than their rent prices.

[-] King_Bob_IV@startrek.website 20 points 9 months ago

Also that if there's no houses left in the bank you can't buy more, even if you buy enough houses to buy a hotel.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

Which is why the best strategy is to buy 4 houses and never upgrade to a hotel. It prevents others from buying houses. And you can’t just skip straight to a hotel in the actual rules either. You have to have 4 houses and the next turn you can buy a hotel.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

To max your strategy you can buy the hotel, if you also have enough money to buy all the houses back on the same turn.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Using the actual rules of the game, you’ve typically already won by the time you’re at the point of having that much money lol.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

I haven't played monopoly since about 1996, but the house rules in your first point were how I was taught the game. Crazy how ingrained those mods are, and where tf did they come from!?

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 26 points 9 months ago

Well, the game was basically designed to show that rent as a concept is frustrating rich-get-richer bullshit. When people get frustrated, they try to tweak the system to make it less frustrating. Ultimately, it just delays the inevitable.

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There was a spread of "Memes" or cultural context Pre-Intetnet. It traveled by mouth to mouth and sometimes via Television or Radio.

The legend that Maryiln Manson had one Rob removed to give himself BJs is one that comes to mind.

Or, different but also relevant, how kids call the place where they can't be caught during a game of catch (I am no native speaker, so no idea if "catch" is the name of the game. You run after each other, once you touch another player they become the one to catch allothers). In my part of the woods you would agree on a (say, a tree) and couldn't be cought while beeing in contact with it. We called is "House".

Edit: It's called Tag, as has been pointed out. Also corrected some spelling.

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Only adding because you said you aren’t a native speaker and thought you might want to know:

  • It’s caught not cought
  • The referenced playground game is typically referred to as Tag as far as I am aware
  • We would always refer to your example of “house” as “home”, “base”, or “home base”
  • And I’m guessing “whole beeing” at the end was just a typo but in case it wasn’t, the correct use would be “while being”

Again, I’m not trying to critique anything, everything you wrote was perfectly understandable, especially with context, I just felt you might appreciate the information.

[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Monopoly house rules makes the game last forever and being boring af. Uno house rules makes the guy who called Uno draw 12 on their next turn.

[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 20 points 9 months ago

I feel like the biggest problem with monopoly is how long it takes to lose. If you get a bad start, you can find yourself in a losing position just a few laps in. But the game doesn't outright finish you. You need to land on bad squares to slowly get drained. Every lap you take gives you a small amount such that losing takes even longer. You still need to play and pay attention, because the rest of the table might still be in it

Depending on the player group, I've found that losing a game could take 1-2 hours while the initial stage where you realize you are losing could take a mere 15-30 minutes.

It's a miserable game.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

That was the goal of the design, it wasn't meant to be a game. It was social commentary.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago
[-] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

I'm deeply and sincerly indifferent to soccer. But that's a shit analogy.

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[-] CptBread@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Tried playing with official Uno rules over Christmas and they suck. The house rules we played with were a lot quicker and there where more up and downs as you could fall behind quicker butt also catch up quickly.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 33 points 9 months ago

If we can't keep adding +X cards to the rotation until one poor fool is left drawing 183 cards then what even is the point of playing Uno?

[-] GabrielBell12fi@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

You realise the first thing that came to mind is there are +2 cards and +4 cards so why would anyone end up drawing an odd number of cards?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because after being forced to draw 182, you still don't have anything to play.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Or you're just shit at counting

[-] anonymouse@lemmings.world 17 points 9 months ago

Next you're going to tell me I can't sandbag on purpose in Spades to trick the other team into reneging.

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

Do you mind a quick elif on this? I don't know spades and immediately got overwhelmed trying to look up these terms and research enough to know their context x.x

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

You know what I've been playing spades since I was 9 and I'm as confused as you. Reneging means playing a card from the wrong suit, i.e. playing a spade even though hearts was led and you have hearts. This happens very rarely and it's almost always a player error, and it's almost never done in relation to the bid. There's no strategy that involves reneging, it's just a penalty when someone sees it happen. (Someone always sees it happen. It's hard to renege without someone at the table knowing what cards should be left.)

It's possible OP was talking about "setting" the other team, which means tricking the other team into bidding overconfidently so they fail to take enough tricks. (This results in a big score penalty for the team going set.) Sandbagging (deliberately underbidding) can definitely be used, and legally, to make the other team go set.

[-] Maslo@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Before you play a round you guess how many of the 13 'books' you will win. Books come from the single cycle where everyone throws out one card. The winner collects the 4 cards like a little book and count it as a point.

If you win more books than you guessed, you collect one sandbag for each book overguessed. Every x (usually 10?) sandbags and you get a permanent penalty against your total score.

Reneging is almost the opposite. If you win less than you guessed, you get a penalty instead of adding anything to your score that round.

They're suggesting that if they guess first, they will purposely make their guess less books than they know they have (and collect sandbags) to hopefully trick their opponent to guess more. It can be easy for the last person who guesses to just subtract what's been claimed from 13 for a good ballpark of where they should guess, so if there's a lot left it's easy to bite off more than you can chew.

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[-] Siethron@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Doesn't the official uno online app allow for +2 stacking?

[-] guywithadeathwish@feddit.uk 6 points 9 months ago

Yes it does, but it's a "custom" rule

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago

I hate Uno.

First you stack +2. Then you stack +4 and +2. Next, whenever there's a +n, everyone can throw a +n in. Logically this now goes for reverse too. And so on... it ends in a card fight.

[-] _Gandalf_the_Black_@feddit.de 13 points 9 months ago

This is one of the best things about it. There's no feeling like passing on a +8 to someone.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

Uno is just a shit version of the dutch game Pesten, which in turn is more fun if you shuffle 4 packs of cards together for larger groups.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

Yeah I was going to say, I remember someone I know buying an Uno set and it turned out to basically be a game we already played with normal cards that cost £1 a pack.

[-] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Thanks for this, I've added this to my short list of card games to play. I'm gonna try it with some friends tonight. I like Uno well enough, but not enough to own it. Now I can play a better version whenever I want.

I'm curious, what other card games do you enjoy?

I'm in Michigan USA, so off the top of my head end in rough order of preference, I enjoy hearts, euchre, cribbage, egyptian ratscrew, kings in the corner.

I'm not fond of pinochle, or hand and foot. There are probably others I can't think of at the moment.

And of course not mentioned are kids games like go fish, etc etc.

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[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 9 months ago

+4 can also go in a +2 but now only +4s can be player—you can’t go back to +2.

You can skip a skip, but then it skips two people. If the person who it lands on skips again, it skips three people, and so on. Fun to figure out when you’re all wasted.

We calls it Meanuno.

[-] anonymouse@lemmings.world 8 points 9 months ago

Don't forget Reverse on a +2 or +4 so the person who played it has to pull it.

[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

This is the first one I've read that I have legitimate disagreement with.

[-] BoBTFish@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

Have you ever played Mornington Crescent?

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

No one has ever played Mouse Trap or Operation and followed the rules.

What are these even for?

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Wait, operation has money and cards? Since fucking when?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago
[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The fun of mousetrap is spending an hour setting it up, finding out you're missing one crucial piece of tiny plastic and trying (and failing) to set it off anyway. The game board is just there for stability.

[-] woodenskewer@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

mouse trap is not the same game i remember from when i was a kid. it is a dumbed down piece of shit now.

[-] cupcakezealot 8 points 9 months ago

remember: wild draw four should only be played on your mortal enemy

[-] MBM@lemmings.world 6 points 9 months ago

Make sure to always sit next to your mortal enemy, in case of a surprise Uno game

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

You cannot play a +2 on a +2

Sounds like the Pauli Exclusion Principle applied to cards.

[-] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

If you make your own rules you may end up in:

Uno: The Movie

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[-] RedStrider@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

i played a game where we had a rule that skip cards could stack.

while being skipped, if you have a skip card, you could play it instead of being skipped. skipping your skip. the next person would be skipped instead, continuing the cycle.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I brought an official Uno deck and it comes with blank Wild Cards where you can write in your own house rules. It also came with a 'Swap Cards' card that let's the holder take another player's cards.

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