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[-] anton 70 points 1 year ago

Hummingbirds make for bad spys as they are an hour away from starvation for large parts of their lives.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago

But it's a magic shapeshifter hummingbird. Do they even need to eat?

[-] groovyLizard42@lemmy.eco.br 18 points 1 year ago

Good question, how far do wild shape replicate biologic aspects?

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Well, obviously it doesn't mess with your brain otherwise if you turned into a cat you'd probably just spend the rest of the day sleeping and licking your butt.

[-] Dagnet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Polymorph messes with your brain and doesn't make you do that tho

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Eh two different spells, one affects the brain the other doesn't. Maybe polymorph makes you poop little round pellets too.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe you wouldn’t, but IMO that’s half the reason to be a cat.

You’re a fool if you don’t think Sirius Black spent most his time in Azkaban licking his balls.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

There are stories of druids shifting to wild shape and living among nature for years, so I would assume they need to eat the same way their shifted shape would. It seems unlikely that they could be sustained from the magic of a single spell for that long.

[-] psud@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I have always played and DM'd that wildshaped druids can take their normal meal times like the animal would. So if they're crossing a plain the druid could reduce the need for supplies by being a horse and eating grass

[-] Archpawn@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Not in D&D. They just need to eat every other day, like anything else that doesn't have enough CON to go longer. I'm not sure how much they need to eat. I'm told there's a table on page 111 of the DMG, but I don't own one.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

How does conservation of mass work with wild shape? Is that hummingbird 180 pounds? If so, how does it fly?

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 year ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Mystery solved!

[-] psud@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

There's no conservation of mass, you can wildshape into an elephant, load up with goods to your carrying capacity, then change to a raven and fly back, then back to the elephant to unload.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

In 3.5e one of the strongest builds I'd ever seen was a hummingbird wild shape air-domain caster druid with the natural spell feat (I believe that is what it was called). They'd fly around the battlefield in bird form which gave them such insane AC bonuses as to be basically unhittable, then they'd just cast Call Lightning and Ice Storm and destroy the enemies while remaining untouchable. It was honestly insanely OP

[-] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Hmm, interesting build. Did the player ever run into trouble with AoE saves? I feel like a Con save with no to-hit roll would be the Achilles heel there

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I only played a one-shot with the guy; it was just a fun-run kind of game so I didn't get a chance to see a lot of character, just the one day worth of OP-ness.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The cat leaps for me and I wild shape into a flea which means I'm going to hitch a ride to the kitchens on this mean s.o.b. and hopefully I've got time for a short rest because fuck trying to explore a castle with a ~~walking~~ jumping distance of 8 inches.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

A flea is too small for wild shape.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a miniature giant space flea.

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Well, as long as it's not any smaller than the hummingbird, it's still possible.

A hummingbird is pushing the limits of the wild shape ability, and would actually not be allowed under some versions of the game

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Pathfinder too. Hummingbirds would be in the Fine category, while Beast Shape (and by extension, Wild Shape) caps at Diminutive (one category larger.) But if you can apply the giant template for +1 size category...

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