Gotta love being down voted because "America bad" mixed with "guns bad"

Lemmy sure is a weird mixture of people wanting to arm themselves (or allow others to arm) against an increasingly fascist state while some want all guns to be gone forever and think voting and talking is the only way to enact change. These types are also usually the ones who complain about peaceful protestors being mildly inconvenient to others, and shrug their shoulders when the people they watched beat another person nearly to death get a slap on the wrists because "that's justice for you, whaddaya gonna do"

And it really depends on which group gets to the comments first as to how the votes and conversations go.

A properly run society with good living conditions, social programs, medical/psychological care absolutely can have guns, and there are several examples in europe alone.

But you know.... America bad.

I got beat regularly, and my stepfather at the time used to do stuff like make me wait in the basement for 30 mins, then he'd slowly walk down the stairs with his belt unbuckled so we could hear the jingling in each step, then he'd tell us some scriptures and say this hurt him more than us.

Then if you cried right away it was faking, but if you held on too long it was you being rebellious and stubborn, so my brother and I learned to start faking our cries after the 6th or 7th hit.

I told that to friends as an adult as what I thought was a kinda funny story, and they properly realized I was abused in a somewhat sadistic way and pointed it out to me.

They weren't calling me out for having a different environment, they were correcting my incorrect belief that it was normal or acceptable.

People are doing the same for you. You made it out safely, but giving unstable teens access to guns is definitely a risk that probably shouldn't be taken. Survivor bias isn't an excuse to say it's fine.

Well fuck me for being born into a different environment ig. Mass downvoting

Are you sure that is the reason? Maybe it could be that posting that 13 is a good age for gun ownership in a thread about a 13 year old who used it wildly inappropriately? You are entitled to think what you want, I just personally find it a little distasteful everytime there is a gun death to make justifications about the system that allowed it to happen. I imagine others agree.

absolutely insane age to have access to a gun unsupervised lmfao

The biggest part of gun laws is checking for responsible ownership. You are allowed to get hunting guns in most of the countries that the right says "ban guns". They just have common sense checks, like do you have training at a shooting range, do you understand gun safety, do you have a gun safe, are you not a psychopath prone to fits of violence? Your upbringing wouldn't be any different because your parents were responsible and would have passed all those checks.

This is about not giving a gun to every dumbass yahoo that stumbles into a store. The household this kid grew up in obviously wasn't responsible because this kid has unsupervised access to a gun.

I need to get some sleep. I read that as

It is legal to hunt 12 year olds in some states

And thought this 13-year old had a gun after the age he needed it for protection...lmao

So strange that you would make this comment on an article that perfectly exemplifies why we don't let children walk around with guns.

That's... A take for sure. By all means, take your kid hunting and target practicing that young, instill good practices in them, but there's a big gulf between that and a teenager ever being in the situation in the article.

Why do you need to trust a 13 year old with a gun?

Alright, you seem to have identified the problem now what do you think the solution is? Gun violence seems to be the worst in the areas with the most guns, is that just a human issue?

I'm guessing you're human and probably over 13, so I'm confused.

Did you not get the hormone rage? Were you not horribly stupid with bad judgement like the rest of us?

While I do think this situation is tragic all around, I feel the need to post the definition of "Joke" from Wikipedia:

"A joke is a display of humour in which words are used within a specific and well-defined narrative structure to make people laugh and is usually not meant to be interpreted literally. It usually takes the form of a story, often with dialogue, and ends in a punch line, whereby the humorous element of the story is revealed; this can be done using a pun or other type of word play, irony or sarcasm, logical incompatibility, hyperbole, or other means."

And so I think his comment was an absolutely valid joke. You can joke about horrible things and still remain respectful. Actually it's a very therapeutic and didactic thing to do, if done right.