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[-] punkwalrus@lemmy.world 230 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I married my first wife when she was 18 and I was 20. We went through a lot of hardship. It should not have worked out: we were both poor, from broken homes, in an LDR from different worlds. She was the popular girl, I was a shy and awkward nerd. When we got married, we had only been in one another's presence for a few weeks total. I went into the marriage not expecting a path or plan, as my parents were toxic which ended with my mother's suicide, and my mother in law had been married 4 times before she became single for the last time. None of us had healthy marriages to draw from. At our wedding, her relatives even said, "I give it two years, tops." We were desperately poor, and struggled most of our marriage with health and money issues.

But we made it work for 25 years. We'd still be married, but she passed away ten years ago. We became "foxhole buddies," us against the world.

[-] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 26 points 7 months ago

This, all marriages are supposed to be this, us vs the world, while I get the argument you don't know who you really want when you are 20, I've also seen cases like yours, as long as both people figure out us vs the world, I think the marriage will last. So when people say 25 and after it makes sense, I've also seen cases where people never understand in their life this us vs them mentality, and are never happy and I always wonder the question how much age plays a role in people understand what marriage is supposed to be?

Anyway thanks for your take my man, my condolences, I wish you all the best.

[-] ULS@lemmy.ml 85 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It goes up. Now I think people that get married before 40 are weird.

On serious note.... It's any age. You can tell when a couple is just trying to reproduce an image of "family" because they were told it's the next thing to do in life. Working in retail id often see families you could tell just went through the motions and that everyone was disconnected from one another. It's sad.

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 71 points 7 months ago

Imagine the following scenario: you meet someone in college, and when you graduate at 22 you don't want to split up. They say sure, let's live together, but we need to get engaged; if it doesn't work out we can just break it off. After a year you realize your lives are much better together. You decide to get married but not to have kids until you're 30. If it doesn't work out you can divorce, but you sign a prenup and at least no kids would be involved.

If you both have clear and compatible career goals, that scenario saves you a lot of dating drama and gives you valuable support. I wouldn't call someone in that scenario "weird."

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[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 58 points 8 months ago

I'm in my mid-50s. The generation older than me - my aunts and uncles - generally were in school until grade 8 and were out of the house and working by 16. My mother had her older sister as her teacher.

24 is not a child. You can vote drive, drive, drink, marry sign legal documents etc. And at least for women fertility begins to decline at 32. If you mean you will continue to grow as a person and develop new interests that hopefully never goes away. I went to grad school and was in academia for over a decade after my PhD. I have made two major shifts in my career since then. Old people still feel like they are in their twenties or early thirties mentally, we joke about it all the time. So congratulations, this is it.

[-] dmonzel@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

at least for women fertility begins to decline at 32.

That's a little bit of a yikes there, buddy.

Edit: and additional "yikes" for all of the people that don't see the problem with assigning a value to women based on how fertile they may or may not be.

Edit 2: tHe QuAnTiTy Of EgGs! Because women only exist to get pregnant.

[-] anewbeginning@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

How can a fact be yikes? It’s only relevant if women want children, but if they do then the earlier the safer it is.

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Why is that a yikes? More birth defects, complications, start running low on eggs. All of that is just facts...

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

They said nothing about the value of a woman being tied to fertility, that came out of mind..

As for the decline in fertility statement, that has been scientifically proven for decades and assumed for centuries. Women are born with a set amount of eggs, they typically go through at least one per ovulation cycle, they start reaching the end in their 30s and risks of birth defects start increasing in their 30s

[-] anonymous69@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

So biological facts are now cringe?

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[-] dlrht@lemm.ee 52 points 7 months ago

At what age are you supposed to know what you want for the rest of your life? You will never have an answer to that in any capacity, and not just in marriage. You evolve as a person, you'll never have a fixed desire for your whole life. And that's the great thing about marriage and relationships, they also evolve. And it's about who you want to try doing that with

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[-] Xariphon@kbin.social 49 points 8 months ago

Can we stop extending "just a kid" into ever older years? Society already years anybody under 18 like they're the same as a goddamn fetus. Human life expectancy being what it is, we shouldn't be treating people... not even like they don't know anything but like they couldn't even conceivably know anything for fully a third of it.

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 16 points 7 months ago

I don't know how it is for you, but when I look back at 24-year-old me, I am not impressed. I guess what I'm saying is that there are a lot of us who definitely don't have their shit together when they're 24. They say your prefrontal cortex isn't fully developed until 25 at the earliest, but I feel like it was closer to 30 for me. Granted, I'm kind of a dummy anyway, so this probably doesn't apply to everyone.

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 18 points 7 months ago

That reads as "I couldn't make those decisions at that age, so obviously no one else could."

I say this as someone that had my first child at 23, after talking about it with my girlfriend since the age of 19.

We don't regret a thing. (Well, apart from not winning the lottery. Yet.)

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 16 points 7 months ago

Just wait. 45 year old me was cringe. And 35 year old me? How did that guy even have friends.

[-] explodicle@local106.com 12 points 7 months ago

24-year-old me was an awesome badass and I regret nothing.

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[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

I was a shit person at 24 who knew nothing so everyone must've been a shittier person at 24 who knew even less than me, vibes.

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[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

The age at which you meet has nothing to do with it. Healthy relationships are about evolving together. If you can't do that or if you do it separately, that's when it falls apart. Sometimes you're lucky and you find a compatible person early, sometimes you don't. That's all there is to it.

[-] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 45 points 7 months ago

Seems like 24 is an arbitrary number. Some folks consider themselves "ready" for marriage at 18, some at 40, and some never.

I think its very subjective and situational.

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[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 34 points 7 months ago

Not going to try to change your mind about this opinion, but I'll take a stab at shaming you for being so vocal about a thought that is very much "othering". Maybe turn down the judgement a bit, you don't know people.

[-] sixty@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

You're weird

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[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Me 32, i dont have a fucking clue of what i want for the rest of my life. Maybe those couples that married in their early 20s wanted to explore together what they wanted in life. Good for them.

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[-] charles@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I see a pretty stark difference between people who married young and had kids right away, vs people who married young and enjoyed their time for a while before having kids. The ones who had kids seem weird to me, never got a chance to goof off in their 20s and figure out who they are. The ones who waited feel more normal. But that's just my experience.

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

The ones who had kids seem weird to me, never got a chance to goof off in their 20s and figure out who they are.

I definitely needed to goof off in my 20s and figure out who I was. But not everybody is like that, and the meme in question suggests it's "weird" to know who you are and not need to goof off.

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[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

24 is just as arbitrary an age as 18, change my mind

[-] braxy29@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

someone at 24 has several more years of experience in the adult world. someone at 24 has several more years of neurological development (which isn't complete until around 25). in other words, at 24 someone has better context for decision-making and better decision-making ability than someone who is 18.

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[-] Wasweissich@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

I married at 22 over 20 years ago did not regret a day... I think a happy marriage is just a lot of luck a lot of self reflection and effort. No matter the age it is not a self running maintenance free system

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[-] johsny@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

I got married at 22, (wife 21) and on the 17th of Feb we will celebrate our 32 year anniversary. Seems to have worked out ok for me.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago

Do whatever you want. Maybe your marriage will last, maybe it won't. Live your life. Take chances.

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[-] dudinax@programming.dev 21 points 7 months ago

If you know you want to marry and have kids, and you know who you want to marry, it's weird to wait, especially since you can avoid being a creaking old person who still has young kids.

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If we make it to 24 that'd be 8 years of dating and id feel bad not marrying her by then. My only caveat is I want to be out of college by the time we marry tbh

I'll probably still go to grad school but I'd atleast like my BS

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[-] feoh@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago

I met my wife at 37 and married at 39. Best decision I ever didn't intentionally make :)

But looking back, I had a TON of growing up to do before I was ready to seriously commit to marriage the way I personally view it. Pair bonding for life. Sure, people, things and desired change, but I've watched far too many god awful divorces to ever want to go through that, so I wanted to be really sure and I totally was. It's been an awesome 16 years.

[-] warbond@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

If you don't know what you want before you're 24, should you be allowed to make any decisions?

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Well that’s just like your opinion man. But yeah.

[-] feoh@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

I think everybody's different. I mean, there do exist 23 year olds who are incredibly mature and fully formed as human beings, capable of making that kind of a Big Decision, but from what I've seen they're pretty darn rare :)

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 months ago

Worst mistake of my life. I love my kids, though.

[-] fastandcurious@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Say that to the ppl in countries/places where people start working from the age they are old enough to hold tools, or after high school, they or their parents are not gonna bother delaying their marriage well past puberty, it varies wildly depending on the place(and culture), not everyone is living in a rich country and want to complete masters before doing anything else.

[-] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 12 points 7 months ago

As a rule of thumb I'd agree

That said, few people I can immediately see are extremely compatible and uniquely similar would be fine marrying that young. I could see how having a kid even at 20 could be appealing. Imagine being 40, your kid is 20 and finally cool to hang around with while you're still healthy

[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 12 points 7 months ago

At 53 with a partner and two kids, I am currently in deep, deep depression wishing that I’d married the girl I split up with at 24.

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[-] EyIchFragDochNur@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago

Lol for me all people who marry are weird why draw the line at a certain age

[-] Russianranger@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Throwing my anecdotal 2 cents in -

Married at 23 (wife just turned 21) straight out of college. We were both very immature, and we divorced two years later after she fooled around with her 55 year old boss. Left me devastated at 25 going on 26 thinking I was used goods. After a lot of maturing, a few more relationships, I remarried at 33.

It takes a lot of self reflection - because even though I could chalk up the previous marriage to “lol she a hoe” - I had piss poor financial skills, was very immature and lacked a lot of self confidence which manifested itself in toxic behavior all around. There are times I just cringe at who I was at that age. Not that I’m a perfect person now, I’m just more aware of what I needed to improve in myself to be a decent person and partner.

Part of it is the age old wisdom of learning to love yourself and figuring out what you like, versus just trying to mold yourself into the person you think your partner wants. And not to say that “oh I’m an asshole, They have to deal with it” but truly understanding what makes you tick and finding someone who loves and accepts that part of you.

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[-] Aaron@feddit.ch 11 points 7 months ago

No one knows what they want for the rest of their lives when they're 34 anymore than 24. Same for 44, 54, etc. we're all figuring this shit out together.

But I'll pose another hot take:

Marriage is stupid in general. Pledging to commit your life to another person is stupid, and you don't need a church or government to recognize your commitment. If you end up hating each other somewhere down the road (which is likely) there's no sense in continuing to torture each other. It's not good for anyone. Get divorced? Well then what was the point of getting married in the first place? It's supposed to be a lifelong commitment.

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

I am guessing this is mostly informed by your own experience, personally I feel the same, but I was a fucking moron at 24, certainly not ready for something like marriage or kids, hell I am 31 and I still don't feel that way.

Others might feel otherwise or grow up faster, to better parents and that's okay, no need to label people who do things different than you as weird imo.

[-] FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 months ago

Kinda had an affair with a woman who married at 24 and regretted not 'playing the field'. She ended up getting pregnant with her husband shortly after and I really hope they make it last, but I have a horrible feeling it was a doomed attempt to fix their relationship with a child.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago

Putting arbitrary numbers on people to measure their matureness is weird to me.

There are 15 year old people who are wiser and more mature than a lot with 50.

You can't know without knowing the person.

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