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White House calls for legislation to stop Taylor Swift AI fakes

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[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Guys? I'm gonna go ahead and say this: You get one warning: Do not post porn here, especially links to non-consensual AI-generated porn of real people. That's gross, it's inappropriate for the community, it's almost certainly against Lemmy.world's TOS, and anyone who posts it after this warning gets a perma-ban.

Seriously. Ew.

[-] headset@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Yes, the human body is gross, sex is unnatural and we should all be ashamed.Especially if it's all fake pixels. The only "ew" here is you.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Dude, non-consensual porn posted in an inappropriate community is the problem here, not sex or the human body.

[-] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 113 points 8 months ago

Nobody cares until someone rich is impacted. Revenge porn has been circulating on platforms uninhibited for many years, but the second it happens to a major celebrity suddenly there's a rush to do something about it.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 68 points 8 months ago

What?

This isn't revenge porn, it's fakes of celebrities.

Something that was done for decades, and one of the biggest parts of early reddit. So it's not "the second" either.

The only thing that's changed is people are generating it with AI.

The ones made without AI (that have been made for decades) are a lot more realistic and a lot more explicit. It just takes skill and time, which is why people were only doing it for celebrities.

The danger of AI is any random person could take some pictures off social media and make explicit images. The technology isn't there yet, but it won't take much longer

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago

I think it's more about the abject danger that unregulated AI replication of noteworthy figures represents to basically everything

Also, revenge porn is illegal in I think every state but South Carolina and even then it might have been banned since I saw that stat

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

What a braindead take. Both the US and many other intl countries have enacted AI safety and regulation rules, this is an extension of that effort. The idea is to set a precedent for this kind of behavior. They are also looking into how AI is being used for election interference like having AI Biden tell people not to vote.

Everybody cares, just because it’s not all in place day 0 doesn’t mean nobody does

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 4 points 8 months ago

the second it happens to a major celebrity suddenly there's a rush to do something about it.

Bruh this been happening to celebrities for decades.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 46 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

This wasn't a problem until the rich white girl got it. Now we must do... something. Let's try panic!

-The Whitehouse, probably.

[-] frickineh@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Honestly, I kind of don't even care. If that's what it takes to get people to realize that it's a serious problem, cool. I mean, it's aggravating, but at least now something might actually happen that helps protect people who aren't megastars.

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 11 points 8 months ago

You must be new to capitalism, lol

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

Blah blah blah so tiring to hear this thoughtless perspective constantly pushed in the fediverse.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

If you don't like discourse that is different from your beliefs then plug your ears and shout lalala as you have been doing so for decades.

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm just saying, nothing about this should lead anyone to the conclusion that anyone in power is suddenly going to start caring about poor people. They're literally only talking about this because a billionaire got its feelings hurt.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

It absolutely was a problem before and it’s not because Taylor is white. Revenge porn laws aren’t new and AI legislation has been in the works before this popped off.

You also gonna say nobody cared about election interference until an AI recording of Biden told people not to vote?

Just because you weren’t aware doesn’t mean it wasn’t happening

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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

U.S. government be like:

Thousands of deep fakes of poor people: I sleep.

Some deep fakes of some privileged Hollywood elite: R E A L S H I T.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But actually not

AI legislation has been in the works both in the US and intl long before this Taylor shit, this is just an extension of those efforts.

It’s not about rich white people, it’s about serious potential to harm.

Potential harm like election interference: https://www.wired.com/story/biden-robocall-deepfake-danger/

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 18 points 8 months ago

This will be interesting.

How to write legislation to stop AI nudes but not photo shopping or art? I am not at all sure it can be done. And even if it can, will it withstand a courtroom free speech test?

[-] macrocarpa@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I think it's not feasible to stop or control it, for several reasons -

  1. People are motivated to consume ai porn
  2. There is no barrier to creating it
  3. There is no cost to create it
  4. There are multiple generations of people who have shared the source material needed to create it.

We joke about rule 34 right, if you can think of it there is porn of it. It's now pretty straightforward to fulfil the second part of that, irrespective as to the thing you thought of. Those pics of your granddsd in his 20s in a navy uniform? Your high school yearbook picture? Six shots of your younger sister shared by an aunt on Facebook? Those are just as consumable by ai as tay tay is.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You write legislation that bans all three because there is no difference between generating, photoshopping or drawing lewds of someone without their consent.

Banning this on an individual level would be impossible, so you let the platforms that host it get sued.

We have the technology to detect if an image is NSFW and if it includes a celebrity. Twitter is letting this happen on purpose.

The images spread across X in particular on Wednesday night, with one hitting 45 million views before being taken down. The platform was slow to respond, with the post staying up for around 17 hours.

It's hard to pretend it wasn't reported by Taylors fans many time during this time and the moderators didn't know about this image half an hour after it was posted.

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[-] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

This is what the white house is concerned about........ Fuck them. Like there is so much worse going on in America but oh no one person has ai fake porn images heaven forbid!

[-] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The White House is capable of having a position on more than one issue at a time. There also doesn't seem to be a particular bill they are touting, so this seems to be more of a "This is messed up. Congress should do something about it" situation than "We're dropping everything to deal with this" one.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

The White House is capable of having a position on more than one issue at a time.

Doubt.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Nice job reading the article, any one of these articles, to actually get context and not just react to headlines.

People are asking about Swift. The government isn't buddying up to her specifically. Swift is only the most famous face of this issue with very focused growth on this.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Is the law going to explicitly protect her and no one else?

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

It’s called setting a precedent bud.

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[-] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

Taylor is just trying to distract us from her jet emissions again, just like her new PR relationship with that Kelce guy was almost certainly to distract us from her dating that Matty Healy dude that openly said he enjoys porn that brutalizes black women (and also from her jet emissions).

She's not stupid. She's a billionaire very aware of how news cycles work.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 13 points 8 months ago

Do you want more AI gens of nude Taylor Swift? Because that's how you get more AI gens of nude Taylor Swift.

[-] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 9 points 8 months ago

Dear world, please stop making fakes kthx.

We need to change society so people don't want to make celebrity deep fakes.

[-] semperverus@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

I'm open to proposals on how to make people willingly not want to do these kinds of things of their own volition.

[-] match@pawb.social 2 points 8 months ago

make ais publicly owned and have ai prompts be a matter of public record

[-] ashley@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago

impossible to enforce and that's if all ai was open. secondly, corporations and companies will never be willing to give out their million dollar AI's for free to the public.

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 6 points 8 months ago

What do you propose? Keep in mind, we can't even change society so people don't constantly try to kill each other over nothing.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Nah we just need to punish the offenders. Send these kids to juvie for 12 mos for first offense and give it a sexual assault tag.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

theres nothing illegal about ai models

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[-] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

So at what level of artistic talent does it become 12 months in jail and sex offender list?

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

Man, I hope this doesn't distract Biden from his important work pretending to dislike the genocide in Palestine that he is materially supporting!

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Wait.. They want to stop only Taylor Swift AI fakes? Not every AI fake representing a real person???

[-] ehrik@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Y'all need to read the article and stop rage baiting. It's literally a click away.

"Legislation needs to be passed to protect people from fake sexual images generated by AI, the White House said this afternoon."

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Only AI fakes of billionaires. They're just admitting that there's a two tiered legal system, and if you're below a certain "value," you will not be protected.

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