This isn’t even false equivalency, it’s just blatantly false.
I only see this argument made by conservatives. It is a deliberate attempt to drive a racist and LGBT-phobic wedge between the white working class and the Democratic Party. I have never seen a progressive person demand less support for the rights of minorities.
I also favor raising the minimum wage, making universities free to attend, and having universal healthcare - but LGBT rights aren’t the reason we don’t have those things. The GOP is the reason we don’t have those things, and it’s not like if the Dems said “Fuck it, arrest and kill the gays” that the GOP would suddenly support workers’ rights.
If you want to help the poor, vote out the party that says shit like this.
Conservatives, and useful idiots.
The only people I see claiming both sides are the same are people who have interest in either democrats failing as a party, or the whole country failing and collapsing in general.
Mhm of course! Third year into the Democrat administration and wealth inequality in the US keep reaching new staggering heights.
Hmmm ... and which party is running the House of Representatives that had the record for getting less done than any other in the history of the country?
You keep telling yourselves; it's the other teams fault! All the while the situation is only geting worse and worse for the working class
That's exactly what you've done in the first place. A lot of these issues you all do this over are not even short term issues but long term ones that no single administration has that much control over. Stop with the BS hyperbole and actually think for your damn self. We are living in a pseudo democracy masking a plutocracy. You're too busy playing their game so we won't unite. They keep getting richer while the rest of us suffer and fight over stupid shit.
Thanks Reagan
You know who posts boTh sIdEs memes? Republicans trying to distract you from the shit they are doing.
"Everyone to my left is all the way to my right."
Is this Vaush-Bidenism?
The Republican one should also say no with Nazi flags, crucifix, and a gun
It's sad to see this up voted so much right under an article about democrats trying to provide free community college.
I feel bad for posting this now because I wasn’t trying to make false equivalencies. Unequivocally, I find that someone identifying as a Democrat politician is more likely to be progressive and humanitarian than one identifying as a Republican politician.
I am not sure the demeanor of the Democratic Party in general has anything to do with intrinsic ideology because many party members used to be against gay marriage in the 90s. It’s a good thing that one party (Democrats) is open to changing itself according to public will, which is what you’d want in a representative democracy.
What this means to me is that you shouldn’t take party demeanors for granted, and keep pushing for the change you want.
Edit: so yeah, if you don’t want four years of conservatives breaking all progressive pillars of society, go out and fucking vote!!
Never feel bad for posting content. Lemmy needs content.
Meanwhile in reality:
I take it back, that poor unionist on the right is about to receive a maximum power Biden Blast
You are forgetting when he stopped the train unions.
we didn’t get everything ever so it’s bad!!!!
Give me a fucking break
I'd rather the rail workers got a break but apparently Joe didn't agree.
Apathy gets nothing done
true, but both sides do need to be criticizeable, not just the worse one.
Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with "they're the same, democrats just put on a hat" is dishonest and reductionist. This kind of thing actively causes harm and plays into the hands of the party that's objectively worse for anyone that's not rich.
Criticizing is great, putting it like OP with "they're the same, democrats just put on a hat" is dishonest and reductionist.
It's really not. My favourite example is Roe v. Wade - how long did democrats have to fix it? How long did they use it in their campaigns in the lines of "if you don't vote democrats, republicans will overturn it"?
Yeah, they're the better choice, for sure, but they're not a good choice.
And your own words show exactly what I mean.
There's a marked difference between lazy fucks who didn't properly bring it across the finish line and people actively working to make things worse. Correct my believe if I'm wrong: unless it's a constitutional amendment, laws are fairly easy to overturn still.
And to 'how many years'.... How many years did people have to vote for progressive candidates in the lower levels to change the actual base of the party to where they want it to be? How many years have the voters not used to make it the party they want it to be?
This kinda shit is so fucking often due to progressives wanting things to be a certain way, but not putting in the legwork because "it's a lost cause anyway". With the democrats you have a chance to change the party into the progressive direction. Take an example from those maga assholes - it doesn't take a lot of them to shift the republicans to be even worse.
This argument would be fine if the DNC actually let people select progressive candidates. But they almost never do. The DNC is controlled by committee, not by democracy, ironically.
And who do they draw from? The active base. If the complaints are loud enough, broad enough, from inside the party, that's when they will have no choice.
"Oh there's the dnc, can't do anything, move on" is not a productive way to fight these things.
This kind of thing actively causes harm and plays into the hands of the party that’s objectively worse for anyone that’s not rich.
No, you.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
No shit, Sherlock. And that's why you're helping the fascists with this comparison. You're working in a two party system, being an idiot about how to actually change shit.
You're not changing the one party that can be used for change for the better, you're just whining and making them seek votes elsewhere.
You don't change anything when you are conveniently forbidden from criticism.
Use constructive criticism. Criticize the issues. Don't put false equivalencies first.
US citizens need to destroy the first past the post voting system. It's fucked and undemocratic and it needs to be replaced.
The problem is that only people who came into power using the current system would have a chance to change the system. And why would anyone want to change the system that brought them to power?
This is broadly true, but it's not completely unheard-of for systems to change despite this.
~~US~~ citizens need to destroy the ~~first past the post voting~~ system. It’s fucked and undemocratic by design and it needs to be ~~replaced~~ abolished.
FTFY
I'm not sure I get you point.
This article is very US centric and it only talks about (the obvious) flaws in the US system. Other democracies might not be perfect, but many don't have the problems mentioned there.
We could completely abolish any system of government, but cooperating in societies of thousands and millions of people would be close to impossible.
That's what happens when you only have the choice between neo liberal and extreme right.
Neo-liberal doesn't mean what you think it means.
to be fair, it doesn't mean what anyone thinks it means
In scholarly use, the term is frequently undefined or used to characterize a vast variety of phenomena.
Right, we need to be organizing, protesting, and working to destroy the current power structure.
Republicans: how about we make it worse.
This is fucking dumb as hell, rainbow capitalism is the fucking tip not the whole goddamn iceberg.
This is just another braindead “both sides” meme
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