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How can it be so bad? (startrek.website)
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[-] nublug 84 points 9 months ago

heroic games launcher is a foss epic and gog launcher, works very well and very fast for me on linux. it has a windows version, too.

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Oh this is very cool. Thanks for pointing me in this direction

[-] MrGerrit@feddit.nl 7 points 9 months ago

Can recommend. Have it on my steam deck and PC. Runs great.

[-] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

I didn't know it had a Windows version. Thanks for the heads up 👍

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 61 points 9 months ago

It's long because you have to copy and paste your password from the manager (and click "remember me") every time.

[-] taanegl@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago
[-] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago
[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Billy gonna learn he ain't ever to old for a whoopin'.

Cocks shotgun I just want to talk to him.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

I just... I just wanna shoot him. I JUST wanna talk to him.

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[-] ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

I find the video from LTT kinda hilarious with the 96 core threadripper. Breaking records in cinebench but Cities Skylines 2 still runs like shit (in a 1mio pop city).

[-] SkyeStarfall 15 points 9 months ago

Because chances are the 7800X3D will be faster due to the cache.

Real-world applications often can only be parallelized so and so much, before you start hitting diminishing returns for many reasons. A lot of it is about the actual technical design as much as it is the technical execution (you can't parallelize two operations if one depends on the result of the other).

[-] Shorn@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I’m not sure the 7800X3D would even run a mil pop city. They were using 64 of the 96 cores running Skylines 2.

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[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Also cache optimization has been a huge trend in games programming in recent years

[-] Smacks@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

The Epic Games store is so fucking behind I actually can't understand it. Is there a single intern they rotate between semesters to build their client? It feels like yesterday they actually introduced a favoriting system to the library.

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Do people just bash epic to bash epic?

No one I talk to in real life has ever had one of these complaints about the launcher, it has its issues, but logging and startup isn’t them.

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 25 points 9 months ago

Really? It takes ages to open for me.

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Few seconds, steam takes longer. And I’ve never had login issues too.

Is it from linked accounts or privacy clearing techniques?

Weird, steam is so much faster for me. And I don't do anything strange, just log in and use it, but almost every single time it asks for my password. I wonder if there's a timer - like, if you don't log in for a week, you have to give your credentials again?

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Even without re-entering my credentials or actually completely closing and opening EGS within (reasonably waiting for all related processed to close first) a few seconds, it opens and loads/downloads my library content very late compared to Steam or GOG. Opening the store as default was actually worse.

So far all my friends have the same experience. The top commenter must be very lucky, or maybe their EGS program runs in the background at startup.

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Epic

Even my friends have similar experiences, between steam and epic taking the same amount of time. Even before I upgraded I never noticed an issue like “minutes”.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

On my beefy desktop PC it takes about 30s to a minute to open on a 4 year old SSD

Steam takes about 15s max, less usually but it opens on PC start so I don't usually have to open it

On my laptop from 3 years ago steam is about a 22s open (doesn't open on launch there) and epic takes well over a minute and a fucking half

The laptop hardware is just slightly older, lower versions of basically the same desktop hardware too so why the difference is so gd massive idk

But it seems like some hardware HATES EGS

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, of course I'm not saying it takes minutes on a computer from the last few years with a nvme. The duration in the meme is likely a blatant exaggeration for meming, or for a weaker computer (still a valid criticism point but another topic).

I just tried both. With the first start, Steam vs Epic timers are about 5vs10 seconds, while with a second launch Steam still keeps to 5 while Epic is down to 7 second for me.

These are all on a Ryzen 3600 with 3500wr nvme and a 3200mhz ram, but friends have both worse and better PCs in all regards and still notice the difference.

5 vs 7, even 5 vs 10 seconds on an enough PC isn't and shouldn't be something to fret about. Admittedly, my feelings of Epic being slower comes from still long first post-install runs and usage from 6+ months ago, and in my case Epic opens quite quickly these days.

Edit: Checked your vid, and yeah, something similar on a second-run, but albeit with a flashing Epic logo once, but in a similar duration in total.

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah by default epic runs at startup

[-] schmidtster@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Epic

Steam

I7 13700kf 64ram 4080

Like I get I have few issues from the newness and overkill, but credentials shouldn’t be a hardware issue, and sometimes new components do weird things loading wise. My old 2600k did things better than newer chips for years.

Edit, I wonder if internet speed matters, I’ve got gig internet.

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Interesting to see this discussion because I don't use epic because I don't play many games outside of TF2 and space engineers and I more or less just use steam to auto update blender and tell me how my PC is doing so all I experienced is steam taking about a half minute to open every time.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why would I bash EGS? How can I even bash it when it doesn't support Linux?

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 10 points 9 months ago

Yes. Over the years I just stick to Steam partly because it actually keeps me logged in and actually functions faster than a snails pace.

Uplay/Uconnect whatever they wanna call themselves today is the worst. But Origin/EA and Epic ain't much better.

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[-] soloner@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Same here. I run it on windows 11 and sign in with Google... never really noticed any performance issues.

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

While both of our claims are anecdotal, I've had it cause performance issues. It definitely isn't the normal behavior for EGS and was probably a bug, but on my system it was sometimes sitting in the tray consuming 10 GB of system memory (and causing excessive swapping due to memory pressure).

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

There are valid reasons to bash Epic. I've written about some of them in another comment thread I made on Lemmy, but the overall problem I (and likely many others) have with them is a combination of their CEO's hypocrisy and the company's actions.

[-] Longpork2@lemmy.nz 4 points 9 months ago

I didn't realise you could bash it? Isn't it a GUI application? And one that needs to run inside wine at that?

[-] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Wow Ubisoft game launcher opens in... Never? Wtf I paid money for this game and then I need to buy it again because they didn't actually give me the account and now the launcher is just dead and I can't even open it.

[-] Longpork2@lemmy.nz 5 points 9 months ago

Fuck that. I bought one of the assassins creed games legitimately, then had it refuse to launch after a few weeks because they updated their launcher and borked it. I then pirated that same game to bypass the launcher issue and pirated every other ubisoft game since then.

If I have to pirate games to get around a deliberate flaw you worked into your program, I'm not paying for that game.

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago

use legendary

[-] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Electron + hell lot of JavaScript.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I decided about 10 years ago that I just can't afford to keep updating my computer every couple of years just so I can play new titles. So now I just play old titles. And if you play old enough titles, you don't even have to go to a torrent site. You can go directly to the Internet Archive.

I keep rediscovering games I loved when I was younger. I've been playing Skyroads lately. I still love the music. You know how long it takes to load Skyroads on a computer from 2015? I have no idea either because it loads faster than I can measure time.

This has been your lecture from a crotchety old man.

[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 3 points 9 months ago

Steam can't be run in minimal anymore, internal browser always eats a GB of RAM if you want to play a steam game.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

Well, now opens to a black screen in two minutes.

Might take a restart if you want some content in it.

[-] ramsgrl909@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Every other time I play Chivalry 2 I get an ad pop-up (or 2) mid duel. Maybe I should just re-buy on Steam...

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