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Do people just bash epic to bash epic?
No one I talk to in real life has ever had one of these complaints about the launcher, it has its issues, but logging and startup isn’t them.
Really? It takes ages to open for me.
Few seconds, steam takes longer. And I’ve never had login issues too.
Is it from linked accounts or privacy clearing techniques?
Weird, steam is so much faster for me. And I don't do anything strange, just log in and use it, but almost every single time it asks for my password. I wonder if there's a timer - like, if you don't log in for a week, you have to give your credentials again?
Even without re-entering my credentials or actually completely closing and opening EGS within (reasonably waiting for all related processed to close first) a few seconds, it opens and loads/downloads my library content very late compared to Steam or GOG. Opening the store as default was actually worse.
So far all my friends have the same experience. The top commenter must be very lucky, or maybe their EGS program runs in the background at startup.
Epic
Even my friends have similar experiences, between steam and epic taking the same amount of time. Even before I upgraded I never noticed an issue like “minutes”.
On my beefy desktop PC it takes about 30s to a minute to open on a 4 year old SSD
Steam takes about 15s max, less usually but it opens on PC start so I don't usually have to open it
On my laptop from 3 years ago steam is about a 22s open (doesn't open on launch there) and epic takes well over a minute and a fucking half
The laptop hardware is just slightly older, lower versions of basically the same desktop hardware too so why the difference is so gd massive idk
But it seems like some hardware HATES EGS
No, of course I'm not saying it takes minutes on a computer from the last few years with a nvme. The duration in the meme is likely a blatant exaggeration for meming, or for a weaker computer (still a valid criticism point but another topic).
I just tried both. With the first start, Steam vs Epic timers are about 5vs10 seconds, while with a second launch Steam still keeps to 5 while Epic is down to 7 second for me.
These are all on a Ryzen 3600 with 3500wr nvme and a 3200mhz ram, but friends have both worse and better PCs in all regards and still notice the difference.
5 vs 7, even 5 vs 10 seconds on an enough PC isn't and shouldn't be something to fret about. Admittedly, my feelings of Epic being slower comes from still long first post-install runs and usage from 6+ months ago, and in my case Epic opens quite quickly these days.
Edit: Checked your vid, and yeah, something similar on a second-run, but albeit with a flashing Epic logo once, but in a similar duration in total.
Yeah by default epic runs at startup
Epic
Steam
I7 13700kf 64ram 4080
Like I get I have few issues from the newness and overkill, but credentials shouldn’t be a hardware issue, and sometimes new components do weird things loading wise. My old 2600k did things better than newer chips for years.
Edit, I wonder if internet speed matters, I’ve got gig internet.
Interesting to see this discussion because I don't use epic because I don't play many games outside of TF2 and space engineers and I more or less just use steam to auto update blender and tell me how my PC is doing so all I experienced is steam taking about a half minute to open every time.
Yes. Over the years I just stick to Steam partly because it actually keeps me logged in and actually functions faster than a snails pace.
Uplay/Uconnect whatever they wanna call themselves today is the worst. But Origin/EA and Epic ain't much better.
egs games are drm-free and with Legendary it's a really nice experience (I'm using legendary with playnite)
never lost my token/login
the epic servers are kinda slow tho
Why would I bash EGS? How can I even bash it when it doesn't support Linux?
There are valid reasons to bash Epic. I've written about some of them in another comment thread I made on Lemmy, but the overall problem I (and likely many others) have with them is a combination of their CEO's hypocrisy and the company's actions.
Same here. I run it on windows 11 and sign in with Google... never really noticed any performance issues.
While both of our claims are anecdotal, I've had it cause performance issues. It definitely isn't the normal behavior for EGS and was probably a bug, but on my system it was sometimes sitting in the tray consuming 10 GB of system memory (and causing excessive swapping due to memory pressure).
I didn't realise you could bash it? Isn't it a GUI application? And one that needs to run inside wine at that?