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Google was already in the middle of a class-action lawsuit regarding the incognito mode, where they were accused of tracking user activity. And, they agreed to settle the lawsuit.

To conclude that and move on, they will have to make the necessary changes to prevent another lawsuit against them.

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[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 68 points 9 months ago

No shit.

It's never been a secret what incognito mode does. Websites have always still been able to do whatever they want with your traffic, because the browser doesn't control that in any way.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah. But you don't get upvotes so easily by not shouting "Google bad!".

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago

While this might be obvious to you or I, it's obviously not obvious to some people who think it gives them some semblance of privacy.

The only "private mode" of browsing is anything that's not Chrome or Edge.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The only "private mode" of browsing is anything that's not Chrome or Edge.

Firefox's private mode says:

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/common-myths-about-private-browsing

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago

I'm not reading that. I know what I'm talking about.

[-] jarfil@beehaw.org 6 points 9 months ago

Ok. I'll leave it just in case someone else doesn't.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

it’s obviously not obvious to some people who think it gives them some semblance of privacy.people who think it gives them some semblance of privacy.

As I said in a different comment, it should have been obvious to anyone with with basic reading skills. Google may be a shitty company (it surely is), but the PEBCAK factor is strong factor in this case.

The only “private mode” of browsing is anything that’s not Chrome or Edge.

Disagree. Independently on the browser you use, website may track you server side and you wouldn't ever know.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

it should have been obvious to anyone with with basic reading skills

Just because you have the skill to read doesn't mean you read ever piece of text in the known universe.

[-] Engywuck@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Right. Much easier to avoid reading altogether and just blame someone else when bad thing occur. Typical.

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

How much obvious does it need to be?

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago

They lost a $5B lawsuit because the things on that page weren't true.

[-] sirdorius@programming.dev 12 points 9 months ago

Honestly, this article is pretty bad at explaining the problem here. It's clear that other websites will try to track you, but the important part of this incognito drama is this:

The plaintiffs also accused Google of taking Chrome users' private browsing activity and then associating it with their already-existing user profiles.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/google-agrees-to-settle-in-chrome-incognito-mode-class-action-lawsuit/

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Of course they did. It doesn't take any kind of abuse of the browser to do that. It's all on the website side and everyone does that.

Ban most data gathering websites do. But this has literally zero to do with the browser.

[-] AndrasKrigare@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

That's not true. If you're intentionally logged in to a website, sure, but tracking without an account requires action on the part of your browser, assuming you're using a VPN. Cookies, ad-IDs, user agent, preferred language, etc. is all information that the browser can decide if it provides or not.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I promise none of these people are using a VPN. IP is plenty.

Chrome never claimed it was spoofing any of those details, and spoofing those details without clearly telling the users what they're doing and why would murder the user experience. Their position as a browser had literally no impact on that tracking.

[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 22 points 9 months ago

Of course, a better course of action could have been “actually” improving the incognito mode instead of just updating the notice.

An even better course of action is for people to switch to a browser that care about users' privacy and block trackers by default.

Google makes billions from targeted advertising every year, don't expect it to improve privacy unless it's forced to by regulation or competition.

[-] grandel@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah if you use a google product and expect privacy, you dont know how google makes money.

[-] tardigrada@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

Google makes billions from targeted advertising every year, don't expect it to improve privacy unless it's forced to by regulation or competition.

Yeah, I have been wondering my whole life that there are so many people believing in 'privacy tools' by companies like Google. This is one of the things that mystifies me most.

[-] Liberbara@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago

Agree! Here's a video for anyone who's looking for some help in this front from our friends of Techlore

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 9 months ago

Of course you're correct but the quote you're using is in regards to Google.

[-] Hirom@beehaw.org 4 points 9 months ago

Yes. And my point is: the best course is a action is not waiting for Google to do the right thing, but to move away from Google

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

TL;DR: Chrome doesn't stop trackers, so they're gonna add a warning that incognito doesn't stop trackers.

[-] peter@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

Does Firefox private browsing or Edge's..whatever they call it stop trackers? If not are they being sued too?

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, but they've included the warnings already, so they won't get sued.

[-] peter@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

The edge message definitely isn't clear. The Firefox one is better though

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago

Chrome claimed “Now you can browse privately”, which none of these do. Also, your screenshot for Edge is outdated.

[-] peter@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

I couldn't find a newer screenshot, I assume its just chromium wording now?

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Nope. It's very different. I'm pretty sure this was changed way before this lawsuit.

[-] peter@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

Wow, I do kinda see why Google got sued now looking at those

[-] FlashMobOfOne@beehaw.org 16 points 9 months ago

I'm shocked.

[-] TurboHarbinger@feddit.cl 7 points 9 months ago
[-] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

Before they switched to the two column layout I swear the message used to be about the same as what they updated it to. But it's been a long time since I used Chrome.

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