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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Revelations that members of Germany's far-right AfD discussed mass deportation plans have pushed tens of thousands of people to protest and sparked debate on whether the anti-immigrant party should be banned.

From Cologne to Leipzig to Nuremberg, Germans across the country have poured into the streets over the last week, with another 100 demonstrations expected through the weekend.

Many of the demonstrations have been held under the banner "together against the far-right", with Chancellor Olaf Scholz and Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock also joining a spontaneous gathering in Potsdam, where they live.

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[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago

The vast majority of us are normal, we need to reinforce that from time to time.

[-] chris@l.roofo.cc 65 points 10 months ago

Currently standing at a demonstration in Nuremberg. Lots of passionate people here.

[-] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 39 points 10 months ago

I really, really hope AfD gets banned. Germany has strong anti-hate protections, but enforcement on small groups is avoided because they're too small and not worth the trouble/attention, and enforcement on large groups is avoided because they're too large and powerful, so it's barely useful.

Canada often does the same thing.

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Remember there’s a petition going to take that party’s leader’s right to be elected: https://aktion.campact.de/weact/hocke-stoppen/teilnehmen (link is German)

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

That's the wrong way if doing this. We need to pull out the rag of under those, that vote for him and his shitty stuff, we also have to pressure the media to do better and present more facts instead of opinions...and so on. Back to the roots, basically

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago

The voters don’t care about facts. That’s the problem. We need to dismantle that party while we still have democratic (read: sane) people in charge, because arguing with someone who thinks COVID was a hoax to suppress the people or that the government has a secret agenda to replace the German population with muslims is futile.

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Dismantling the party wont change a thing. In fact, it make things worse, because it alienates and radicalizes those people even more.

[-] bleistift2@feddit.de 5 points 10 months ago

radicalizes those people even more

Tell me, what comes after “Let’s deport all non-Germans”?

[-] nexusband@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

"Let's all gas/exterminate them"?

[-] BoringHusband@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The people who vote AfD don't follow the mainstream conservative media, so probably don't even know there are protests, like Trump supporters who follow news outlets that support Trump. It would help if, for example, a number of famous football teams were brought in to promulgate a more inclusive message. That would likely be more effective than a few minutes on the ARD or ZDF News.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago
[-] avater@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

But sadly they still have a lot of voters and will be probably one of the winners in the next election phase....

[-] i_am_not_a_robot@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 10 months ago

Isn't "silent majority" the term used by the American far right?

[-] muelltonne@feddit.de 11 points 10 months ago

Since this article is coming from Germany, the term used locally would be "schweigende Mehrheit". This is based on Elisabeth Noelle-Neumanns work on the spiral of silence:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_of_silence

In this case the head of the German Verfassungsschutz (one of the spy agencies tasked with fighting extremism) asked the silent majority to stand up against right wing extremism and Nazism and therefore this term is used here. Those american far right idiots don't have anything to do with it. Could be that they heard something about Noelle-Neumanns work and didn't understand it, but even that is unlikely

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's a cunning technique to make any perspective seem like the one "everyone" agrees with. Because of course they agree with us... They just don't say it out loud because [reasons] but they agree really.

[-] SPRUNT@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I sure fucking WISH the American fear right were silent.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

It's used as a lie by the American right. It doesn't have the same associations everywhere.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 10 months ago

It's a lie wherever it's spoken, the delusion that "the people really agree with me, even though no one shows up or says anything."

It's just obvious rhetorical deception on its very face, anyone can claim it for any thing at any time because it just means "I don't have proof the people support my policies."

If anything the "silent majority" staging a mass protest against a still minority party just proves no majority in a democracy is silent.

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