Situations like this is why countries need to setup safe immigration routes.
Not every country wants all immigration though.
Sure everyone wants their own personal castle.
I just think people can just have some slightly less nice things, maybe instead of buying a f150 truck get a small utility vehicle, stuff like that.
As somebody who also is on the fuckcars train, how the fuck did you manage to get on that topic in a response to my comment lol
I think you have a big image of how people in rixh countries live. Most people dont live in big houses, most people dont own trucks. Sure the average person has more things than an averga person in a poor country, but the average person is not going to sacrifice their small luxuries, so people from poor countries come to live with them, especially if the people coming dont have studies and are just going to be living frol the government's money.
I bet you are fine with banks doing it.
And maybe you can let some homeless person sleep under your roof. Solidarity right? Help everyone who has less than you.
Too bad.
For the commenter I replied to? Yeah, their premise made no sense: people won't do things they don't want to and have no incentive to do.
No, not for the commenter you replied to.
Can you read?
There are. I moved from a third world country to a rich country without problems. I have now a safe job and I contribute back to society. No need to risk my life in a boat.
Fucking lucky you mate, want a gold star?
For many people it’s not safe enough to stay where they are why they wait the 10-20 years it takes for the “official” route to let them in.
You want a consolation prize?
It's not the rich countries fault that for many people its not safe in their countries. The rich countries are accepting a lot of people, and there are routes for same immigration. These countries cannot take everyone and anyone, or else they would collapse. Its not hard to understand.
It’s not the rich countries fault that for many people its not safe in their countries.
Care to point out which current unsafe country doesn't have it's recent history involving Europeans fucking them over?
Also rich countries take a pittance in compared to countries neighbouring conflicts, where's your concern about sharing the load there? Rich countries can do far, far, far more than they are without collapsing.
Your first comment made me think I would not agree with you but you have won me over.
I come from South Africa and watching the Dutch and the amount of resources that goes to just cleaning up from a single town party it's clear that so much more can be done.
Third world countries aren't under developed they are overly exploited.
Oh one country worth mentioning is the Philippines, they got fucked over by the Americans instead XD
Care to point out which current unsafe country doesn’t have it’s recent history involving Europeans fucking them over?
Thailand? The only country that was never ruled by the west or in the west. Still very poor but you did ask and I answered.
Read a book.
I wouldn't say I did it with no problems but you can certainly do it, as long as you have everything align for you and you have what ever the people in power want 🙂
I lucked out but many of my friends have no such opertunity.
How about we place a safe route for uncontrolled immigrantion right around where you live? See the problem now?
I'm a South African who has used every ounce of privilege I could to escape to the Netherlands.
100% I don't deserve it I have so many friends back in South Africa, some who have doctorates that would be way more deserving than me.
I am only here due to being privvilaged enough that I could run away while affording all the complications that come from immigrating.
Where I come from we have a ton of uncontrolled immigration, it's only dangerous is you don't look after the desperate people who need help and especially dangerous when you try isolate them.
When your neighbour is suffering it doesn't matter how big your wall if you will suffer along with them.
I really doubt that PhDs have any trouble immigrating legally to any developed country using the existing channels. I did it years ago with just a University degree and some work experience.
What I'm absolutely opposed to is uncontrolled immigration where anybody who feels like it comes to my country. In the same way that I don't let strangers come to my home without my permission.
When my neighbor is suffering, I address that problem through means other than inviting them to my bedroom.
Go right ahead. My area is full of old people living in plastic McMansions, driving trucks they don't need, eating at franchise places that serve microwaved crap. I would love to see the types of communities and commerence here as I did in southeast Asia.
Spain already has a large immigrant population. And is accepting of refugees too.
If given the choice to freely immigrate to the developed world, what percentage of the billion of people in poverty in Africa would choose to do so?
I am sure the world will give 30x resources and attention to this as it did a bunch of billionaire fucks on a submarine joyride to see if a ship that sank is still down there.
meh.
Not sure why you are making this political. There is an expectation that a country care for its citizens at sea. That should include the case of migrants, both to and from their country of origin and in support of a nation's coastline. Don't start doubting that this is the expectation because you saw a couple rich people get support that people get literally every week in other places.
the comments on this post are WILD
You weren't kidding, I ignored your comment and went down but damn couldn't even get through the whole thing.
Put me in a sub and I'll find them
Can you take a few billionaire fucks with you?
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