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[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 207 points 10 months ago

Meanwhile Japanese people, for all their faults, put a fucking mask on when they get a cold because that's seen as a decent thing to do.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, but they're still expected to come into work even when they're ready to fall over.

[-] fallingcats@discuss.tchncs.de 68 points 10 months ago
[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

If you think America is bad, you really need to look more into Japanese Black Companies. They really take the cake on toxic work cultural. Imagine being socially obligated to get black out drunk with your boss.

[-] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

'If you think America is bad' is wholly unnecessary when you consider that socialized healthcare hardly exists, public education is a living corpse of severely underpaid teachers, mass shootings (I've been in one), mandatory cost of car ownership, and so many other fucked up things.

I'm not saying that Japan is a good place to live, because it has a myriad of it's own problems and I personally wouldn't want to live there. I just think we should give people some credit for the shit Americans put up with too.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

True story: Stalin did this every night with his inner circle. Attendance was mandatory assuming you wanted to live.

Behind the bastards did a great episode on it.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

hmmm. Death or all your coworkers slightly judging you? White collar work sounds annoying.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

If it weren't for the work culture, I would love to live in Japan.

[-] madscience@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago
[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

That's true, they hate us*.

*Anyone that isn't Japanese

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[-] HipHoboHarold@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

My boyfriend is in nursing school, and they have some sort of program where you can move there and get a house for cheap, if not free. I'm sure they're not great houses and would need some work done, but still a great deal. We considered it for a hot minute...

But then I started thinking about that stuff, and did some more research into what it's like to move there. Some really awesome aspects to it, but I think we are gonna pass.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

That is the decent thing to do. Well the most decent thing is to isolate yourself when you're sick.

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[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 109 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's still surprising to me that so few after 4 years of this still do not understand the airborne nature of respiratory illnesses especially Rona with all that has gone on.

Then again I might be expecting too much from people...

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago

"Yes, if Fox News says Biden opposes people jumping off of bridges."

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

I seriously wonder how many MAGA morons would suffocate themselves if Biden (or better, Obama) came out as pro-oxygen.

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[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 72 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If all my friends jumped off a bridge, there's probably a good reason. I keep pretty intelligent friends. The bridge is probably collapsing or some shit. Wear a fuckin mask tho.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago

The FOMO would be too much. I'd jump

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[-] ravulous@lemdro.id 51 points 10 months ago

I think one of the better cultural shifts, at least in the US, to come from the pandemic is the number of people wearing masks if they feel even slightly ill and have to go out in public. Better yet, a number of businesses seem to actually mean it when they tell employees to stay home if they're sick, rather than perversly commending those who come into the workplace when they are quite obviously suffering and contagious.

Get vaccinated, wear a mask if you feel ill, you just want to, or you'll be visiting someone at high risk indoors. That said, and I know I will lose most of you here, it doesn't seem necessary for the general populace, when they're not ill, to follow masking guidelines when in public. I'm not a medical professional, so I simply follow CDC guidelines. To my knowledge, there isn't a mask recommendatiom for the general populace at this time.

Purplely anecdotal, but since our hospital system is no longer critically overburdened, and folks are mostly vaccinated, it has been my observation that the negative impact on people's mental health, that the isolation of masking and social distancing induces, is a greater risk to the health of the general public than Covid and its variants. If you choose to take additional precautions, that is absolutely your perogative and you should feel empowered to do so. It'd be great if we could have it all, but people have to do what's right for them to make it through another day.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 45 points 10 months ago

I got banned from Lemmy.world for saying that the main purpose of the masks were to protect others from you instead of protecting you from others.

It's like everyone forgot that masks were part of the "stop the spread" campaign.

[-] marshadow@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Partially correct -- cloth masks protect others, but an N95 actually protects the wearer.

[-] geegaw@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago
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[-] cali_ash@lemmy.wtf 50 points 10 months ago

Huh? "maskless again"? Are there places that still have mask mandates?

[-] sillyhatsonly 58 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A mask mandate was recently reinstated for New York City's public hospitals due to an increase in flu/COVID/RSV infections.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently warned that respiratory illnesses are on the rise across the country. Just before Christmas, national COVID-19 hospitalizations jumped 17% in one week.

"I think that's a major reason why we're seeing this rise in not only cases, but also hospitalizations. Because we've just had Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's, so a lot of people are gathering from all over the country," Roy told NY1.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 56 points 10 months ago

Pretty ridiculous that they're not permanent in hospitals

[-] sillyhatsonly 13 points 10 months ago
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[-] 520@kbin.social 46 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some places have been encouraging but not mandating indoor masks due to the usual uptick in winter for COVID and flu

[-] oxideseven@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago

We lived in a small town with the bridge being one of the best spots to jump off of into the lake. So after the first time our parents used that saying we pointed that out and they never did it again hahaha.

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[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

TIL some still use face masks

Edit: people have trouble understanding that the world is a big place. I haven't seen a person wear a mask, where I live, for over a year now

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 67 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hey, get this: did you know people wore face masks before COVID? That's right! Little known fact.

In fact, many people in Asian countries used to be seen wearing masks in enclosed spaces like subways when they are sick, purely out of consideration for the health of others. Wow!

The more you know...

[-] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Oh yeah sure! I knew. But we didn't get memes about them and it wasn't in what sounds like a western family on that post

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 10 months ago

Some people have never stopped masking where I am. I've asked my partner to mask up when going any place indoors where sick people can't avoid (pharmacy, groceries, etc). We don't mask at a bar, but we do mask at a concert. The difference is that a concert happens once and tickets spoil. A bar is available every night, and sick people are more likely to stay home.

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[-] 520@kbin.social 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's mainly if you have contact with vulnerable people. COVID and flu both get upticks in the winter months, and hit the elderly and immunocompromised pretty hard.

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[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago

I'm not militant about it but I keep 2 masks in my car and use em if I remember. I've only had covid mildly once and never have caught the flu in my life, but learning I could be an asymptotic carrier I decided no point in not wearing it when I remember.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

I can't afford to miss work 🤷‍♀️

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[-] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago

I still use them if I am the one who is sick to prevent spreading, or if I'm going to be going on a trip soon to prevent me being sick and ruining the vacation, or if I'm around vulnerable people. The vacation one might sound silly, but I had a very close call this year where a family trip that couldn't be canceled and had to be planned a year in advance was almost ruined by everyone getting sick a few days before. We lucked out and it was very mild, but it could have been something nasty that made us cancel the trip. So now I wear a mask when going out in public a couple weeks before a trip.

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[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's 2024. Covid is no longer that much worse than the flu. Unless you have some condition, you don't need to mask anymore. Covid is still a thing, yes, and masks still help, but it's not going away, we're better prepared for it, and it's evolving to be more infectious and less lethal.

It's really hard to find data by year, but the second graph on this page is close enough: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

So yeah, wear a mask if you want, but don't shame others for refusing to do so.

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 19 points 10 months ago

Covid is no longer that much worse than the flu.

People bandy about that it's no worse than flu as though that's like saying it's no worse than a bad cold. Flu still kills thousands each year and will knock you on your arse for a fortnight.

evolving to be more infectious and less lethal

It was already around 3 times more infectious than the flu. If it's getting more infectious and is still just not that much worse than the flu we're in for a rough time.

[-] DonPiano@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

And let's not forget about playing long-covid roulette every time you get infected!

[-] Specal@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Masks help preventing spread, they help a little to stop you from catching it but it's more about spread prevention, refusing to wear one because YOU'LL be okay is selfish.

I won't shame you for it, but I am making you aware that you're being selfish.

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[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago

Covid is not entirely over, though. People can still die from it if unvaccinated

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