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[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 149 points 8 months ago

Because nazis are dumbfucks regardless of ethnicity

[-] Piogre314@lemmy.world 112 points 8 months ago

The Association of German National Jews, colloquially known as the "Jews for Hitler", was a German Jewish organization during the Weimar Republic and the early years of Nazi Germany that eventually came out in support of Adolf Hitler. The organization was founded by Max Naumann, who was sent to a concentration camp after the rise of Hitler.

[-] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 54 points 8 months ago

I’m pretty stupid, but damn

[-] _Sprite@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago
[-] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 21 points 8 months ago

Their entire magazine membership was 6,000, presumably a bunch of those weren’t Jewish nor particularly aligned. This wasn’t a trend by any stretch.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago

I wonder how long it took for that magazine distribution list to be used as a list for deportation to concentration camps .

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 18 points 8 months ago

Sounds like what will happen to Trump's supporters if he becomes a dictator.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It should be colloquially known as the "sheep for wolf

[-] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 5 points 8 months ago

Then there was that one American guy like 25 years ago or so that started a Jews For Hitler group with only one member.

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 68 points 8 months ago

Two things people forget:

  1. Spanish people were the first Europeans to colonize the Americas, setting the precedent for the violence and discrimination which has continued for the last 500 years.
  2. The longest lasting Fascist country in Europe was Spain, which was fascist from 1939-1975.
[-] msantossilva@sh.itjust.works 59 points 8 months ago

Portugal's fascist regime lasted from 1933 to 1974. It was 5 years longer than Spain's.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Yea but tbf no one remembers Portugal.

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

Portuguese are just confused Spaniards in the same way that Belgians are confused Frenchies.

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[-] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

I bet the 1975 Spaniards remembered the 1974 Portuguese. But also, when I told a neighbor I was honeymooning in Portugal I was asked "Where is that? Is it part of Spain?" So yeah, it's a lot of folks out there who don't remember Portugal.

[-] s_s@lemmy.one 51 points 8 months ago

Most Hispanic people are highly balkanized and consider themselves to be "the good hispanics".

They are ripe to adopt fascism because their identity was forged by a system of Spanish-Catholic authoritarianism.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Can confirm. Racism and classism are both very subtle but very present in my country. I've had people deny it or pass it off as something else after saying some racist shit.

[-] pigup@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Básicamente si es correcto, nos encanta mamar esos huevos

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[-] Ultragramps 46 points 8 months ago

Cubans in Florida pushing for Trump was not on my bingo card, for sure.

I also remember seeing “general chat lobby” spammers switching from the boilerplate racism tropes to Portuguese and learning about Brazilian troll farms.

[-] FloMo@lemmy.world 73 points 8 months ago

A lot of Miami-based Cubans are VERY anti anything socialist/communist. All you’ve really got to do is say you’re fighting “those socialists trying to take over” and it’s a tragically easy way to win that vote.

Source: My own family/life experience growing up in Miami

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 20 points 8 months ago

the biggest flaw in communist theory is the "temporary dictatorship" part...
it turns out, temporary dictators never willingly stop being dictators...

[-] within_epsilon@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I agree. Any transition away from capitalism should not involve a dictator.

[-] Lycerius@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Welcome to democratic socialism, friend.

[-] nawapad 10 points 8 months ago

The "dictatorship of the proletariat" is just a stupid name for the transitional period. It's not supposed to be an actual dictatorship, but unfortunately Marx was a little drama queen from time to time...

[-] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 3 points 8 months ago

No, Marx was right; there's no way to do it without a dictatorship. There is no universe in which everyone miraculously agrees on how things should be run, and that means that coercion is necessary which in turn means that there has to be centralized and concentrated power, ie; an authoritarian dictatorship.

The experiment has been run before and we know how it ends.

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[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 10 points 8 months ago

They fled from a country that’s been communist for over 60 years and they’re not big fans of communism you say? Weird.

[-] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

Actually it's because they're stupid and watch Fox News and haven't read enough theory

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

A lot of the established Cuban community in Miami are the children of wealthy Cubans who fled during the revolution. So yeah they fled communism but maybe not for the reason you meant.

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[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I witnessed the dangers of authoritarism, so I'm going to vote for... the most authoritarian douche that I can find"

Honestly I think it's time to stop pretending they are poor refugees and treat them as the fascist assholes they really are.

[-] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

They fled Cuba after Bastilles fall and Cubas oppression from the communists so it makes some, unfortunate, sense that they support the orange man.

[-] BrerChicken@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

It was Batista, not Bastille, which is the famous French prison.

[-] profdc9@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

You mean they were fired out of Cuba on Ballistas?

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[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As someone from Latin-America, I think this happens for a number of reasons, including:

  1. The legacy of colonialism: The spanish caste system left a strong imprint on latin american culture tha hasn't disappeared yet. This basically boils down to: Ligth skin good, dark skin bad. T

  2. Right-wing propaganda through the internet: The terms "SJW", "Woke" "Forced diversity" and whatnot have become very widespread in the hispanic internet. You can go to any hispanic forum and you will find people complainig about "wokies ruinning their videogames/movies, etc"

  3. US-backed anti-socialist propaganda: The US pretty much killed all leftist movements in Hispanic-america during their infancy. When it didn't kill them, it still acted with hostility towards them. On the contrary, far-right movements were tolerated if not supported directly. This has created the perfect environment for the far-right to prosper.

There are probably other reasons, but these are almos certainly involved

[-] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The amount of batshit crazy rightwing movements globablly but especially in central america and south america the US has supported over more moderate governments is mindblowing and it makes me want to vomit.

[-] m4@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Because propaganda is something else. We have a term for them, "morenazis" (something like brown-skin nazis").

One of the reasons I got so bored with Reddit is that in the largest sub of my country, r/Colombia, there's a clusterfuck of right-wing neckbeards obsessed with politics who truly believe the world and the country is as they learn from it from social media (not only from Twitter or Facebook, but even from Reddit and 4chan themselves) and live inside a bubble, most probably protected by mommy and daddy. I recall those morons making fun of people watching open air TV because they think everybody should be watching streaming services, in a country where about half of the people don't have access to the internet, another chunk don't even have a TV and there's people with no access to electricity at all. Hell, at this very moment there are kids dying from hunger. At the time I left they even created at least a couple more subs to openly ventilate their stupidity, r/ColombiaReddit and r/ChomposCol.

So, it's kind of privileged and near-sighted people with the IQ of a potato blaming less fortunate people for issues their class have caused in the first place.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago
[-] m4@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Sadly it only works in english

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Hitler didn't have a problem with ethnicities that he would not have considered "Aryan" as long as they stayed out of Europe. That was his thing, he wanted Europe to be an Aryan ethnostate.

[-] bimily@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Spaniards are hispanic and European. Spain has a rich history of fascism.

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

That's not how fascists work there must always be an enemy, once he cleared Europe he would have withered continued on taking the rest of the world and/or cleansing the rest of Europe first slavs than he would have moved on his allies too, Hungarians would have been a target too, it doesn't matter, whiteness and Aryanness is arbitrary

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kind of like how he said he only needed the Sudetenland? Then just Checkoslavaski. Then just Poland.

"Just Europe." I don't have eyerolls big enough for that claim.

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[-] carnimoss@lemmings.world 20 points 8 months ago

It's not that surprising. I have this same feeling with other Hispanics when they're Catholic. Like you know why you're Catholic right? The ones that weren't were murdered, tortured, or jumped off cliffs.

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[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 16 points 8 months ago

There are always members of marginalized groups that try and align with what they see as the way to get ahead, so even if that group sees them as less, it's still better than the ethnic group they belong to is seen by that hate group.

Look at POC in groups like the Proud Boys for example.

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[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 9 points 8 months ago

This is so old, I remember when most people’s memories of Adolf crimes were still really fresh, Idi Amin put up a statue of Hitler. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idi_Amin

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Idi Amin was also fucking nuts.

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago

Without a doubt

[-] Blackmist@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

¡Nunca pensé que los leopardos me comerían la cara!

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