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No arrests have been made in connection with the incident.
This shit needs to change. This has been a problem for too many years now.
For real. Maybe people will take it seriously now that we've gone from the swatting live steamers to swatting representatives and elected officials.
This incidence of swatting is literally terrorism.
I get that, but we tend to not take terrorism very seriously when it's domestic terrorism.
When it's right wing domestic terrorism
Yep. When it’s lefties chaining themselves to a fence to protest nuclear weapons we beat them half to death before giving them life in prison.
Yeah. When I first heard about swatting you heard about arrests. Now it seems like the cops don't give a shit.
When I was in school you'd get a bomb threat in the county once a year or so but they always caught them. How are police so inept now?
Because our phone regulations are absolute shit now and thus it’s much easier to hide this shit with everything now.
This is the real answer. Arrest the spoofers. Anyone can vpn and spoof a phone call. It's why I don't answer my phone anymore
I don't answer my phone either. I have a special Ring tone for the family, that's it. At work I got moved to a new location and asked me if I needed my phone. I said no and haven't used the office phone since. I email companies and setup in person meetings or teams meetings. There's no need for a phone at work if one can just do teams.
When I was in school you’d get a bomb threat in the county once a year or so but they always caught them.
I'm actually surprised about that. Maybe you went to school at a different time from me? I graduated in 1995. A couple of times a year, some kid (probably) would call in a bomb threat so they could get out of a test or whatever and they never got caught. We had a pay phone right outside the school, which didn't help.
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Can’t have swatting problems if you don’t have swat teams.
Seriously, there should be a major push for police departments to de-emphasize swat and stop executing no-knock warrants.
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They’ll get whoever did this. The feds don’t take getting messed with lightly
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I think it's awful, but how do you suggest making changes? The only thing I can think of is tracking 9-1-1 calls, but doing more of that discourages people from anonymously calling in emergencies, which could lead to more deaths.
Er... What? You think they can't or don't already track 911 calls? How do emergency responders give where you are if you can't actually talk while on the phone, like if you're hiding from an intruder in your house?
Calling in a fictional emergency needs punishment. The alternative is wasting emergency service time with impunity, having them off chasing wild geese while someone with a real emergency is dying.
Edit: And yes, this is already illegal and has already resulted in arrests in the real world: https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/the-crime-of-swatting-fake-9-1-1-calls-have-real-consequences1
It just needs to be enforced.
911 calls are tracked. Listen to your local police scanner. Even if someone calls and immediately hangs up, they have a pretty good idea where that person was calling from.
I think @MagicShel meant we should actually use the information we already have, and prosecute it like the attempted murder that it is.
Last time I called 9-1-1 they confirmed my location, and name without me telling them who, or where I was calling from.
9-1-1 only cares about getting help to the scene. AND, if being anonymous is an issue for you, use burners.
At a minimum tell the responding officers that the call was anonymous and hasn't been verified. I don't know beyond that. Remove anonymity but also seal the records automatically to be unsealed only if the call itself is a crime? But we've had a long time to deal with this and think about solutions, and it's hard to believe we've not come up with a single way to address the issue.
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Its crazy to me that people think its the telephone companies that need more regulations here and not the police. SWAT teams shouldn't be going in guns blazing on anonymous calls and any injury or death should be solely their responsibility. By all means try to prosecute the people calling in the first case for misuse of emergency services, if you can identify them, but we all know who pulled the fucking trigger. Police can't both get to decide that they get to selectively enforce the law and then take no responsibility when the injure or kill innocent people.
Police can't both get to decide that they get to selectively enforce the law and then take no responsibility when the injure or kill innocent people.
~~Supreme~~ Extreme Court: That's where your wrong, bucko.
The scary thing is the only reason he was safe and didn’t get swatted is because he already had armed guards protecting him.
Die Hard has John McClane making an anonymous report of terrorists, which is then responded to by a single cop who drives by to see if there's anything going on.
When did that change?
When police started buying military surplus and find it's not exciting if it sits in an armory. Here's a blog post that links a good Last Week Tonight from 2014 about it.
When all you have is an armored vehicle, high-powered rifles, and body armor, every problem looks like a brown-skinned terrorist.
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It's wild to me that when the phone companies need to bill for a phone call they know exactly who to bill for it, but when it's something like this everyone is helpless because you can't track these things
Yeah, like did someone use the Captain Crunch whistle to make this call from a payphone?
Blueboxed it.
Love how esoteric this joke is. The only people who get this are nerds old enough to remember or people who watched that one Tom Scott video about phreaking.
Anyone else used to read 2600 magazine?
I've changed my mind about the death penalty. What is swatting if not an attempt to have someone executed by the state?
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So I don't want to bother finding a place to put this where anyone who would do this would see it. I'll just rant here.
Hey jackass. Let's consider the events of christmas day. Smith family sits safely at home. There is no mention of Jack even being informed.
Meanwhile, a mother is having an over-text conversation with her cop husband about how they are missing each other on Christmas Day. Then the cop texts "got to run. another guy with a gun."
Now the cop's wife is at home holding her children with the routine and traumatic thought of "will my children see their dad again?".
Summing up. Smith family fine. Cop family scared. You know a certain percentage of cops' wives are very sympathetic individuals.
Its not the 40% being beaten by their husbands is it?
https://sites.temple.edu/klugman/2020/07/20/do-40-of-police-families-experience-domestic-violence/
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