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[-] Pyro@programming.dev 156 points 10 months ago

I have no respect for people shoplifting non-essential items (like makeup, etc) but essential items like food is a different story.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago

Makeup is an essential item for professional women. I'm not saying it's right that it's essential, I'm just saying it is.

[-] EnterTanman@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

What about all the women who get by without wearing make-up?

[-] DreadPirateShawn 25 points 10 months ago

Lots of people get by without wearing glasses too, but that doesn't mean that my blind eyes don't need them.

Lots of people get by without a therapist, but that doesn't mean my crumbling mental health doesn't need one.

Everyone needs different things to lean on -- don't shame others for having their own needs, even if you don't understand what it's like to be in their head. :-)

[-] EnterTanman@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I personally have to lean on my private yacht to get by, so im glad people who judge me for it are in the wrong

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

This is my emotional support 4090. I need it.

[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

They don't get jobs as flight attendants. If you already work in an industry that mandates make up use, and you're doing it tough, shoplifting make up seems like a smarter financial choice than getting fired over a lack of make up and having to find work in an entirely new industry.

As someone who currently doesn't even own a single article of make up (unless you count tinted zinc), yes, you can get by without it, but not everyone can, and loosing your job over other when you're already struggling financially isn't ideal.

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[-] Brickhead92@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

They're just casual women, they don't go in the professional circuit

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Good for them, but a desperate person is going to look for any edge they can get.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago

Professional streetwalkers, maybe

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 46 points 10 months ago

The world is burning down around us, and the only people with the power to make an actual difference are throwing gas on the fire. Why the fuck should I even notice somebody shoplifting? Save your disrespect for the real criminals of society.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 35 points 10 months ago

Reminder Wage Theft has by far the greatest total value compared to all other kinds of theft

[-] thearch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

(legitimate question) why don't people in need use food availability programs like food stamps instead of stealing for essentials?

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because if you make over $1400/month then you don't get food stamps. That isn't even rent where I live.

The median STUDIO apartment costs $2100.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago

when you have children to feed and you're hungry yourself - standing in line to fill in a form and wait an interderminate amount of time to be potentially denied something that comes with a huge amount of restrictions it's just easier to steal.

There is enough food and wealth to feed and home everyone. Theft is a service issue.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Are there no prisons?" asked Scrooge.

"Plenty of prisons," said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

"And the Union workhouses?" demanded Scrooge. "Are they still in operation?"

"They are. Still," returned the gentleman, "I wish I could say they were not."

"The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?" said Scrooge.

"Both very busy, sir."

"Oh! I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course," said Scrooge. "I am very glad to hear it."

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

The difference between stealing luxuries and necessities.

[-] worldofbirths@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago

We judge ourselves by our motives, but others by their actions.

[-] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

That's a lot to say in 11 words.

[-] callyral@pawb.social 5 points 10 months ago
[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 52 points 10 months ago

Here people are stealing expensive cheese and meats to sell to pay for drugs

I'm not particularly sympathetic towards that.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

Sick, where is this place I can go to for cheap cheese and drugs?

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[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 23 points 10 months ago

The fuck? How/where do they sell them? Who in their right minds would buy cheese or meat from a sketchy source?

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 11 points 10 months ago

You don't buy artisan cheese from your local toothless meth head ?

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[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Streetfood vendors mostly don't care about sources as long as the goods are good. I had a favorite place before that sold chocolate bars with no markup compared to nearby stores, and I was wondering why they'd even sell them given that chocolate doesnt really go well with their main offerings. Until I witnessed a junkie carry a box to them from the nearest supermarket and it all fell into place. Selling stolen product right across the road might've not worked in their favour though as the place changed hands not long after.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

They sell to people they know. And they're still in their packaging and you know they've recently stolen it, so why not. Really cheap too

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

If I see someone stealing food, they could be stealing to sell it for drugs or they could be stealing to feed their hungry family. Why should I worry about the former when the latter is also a decent possibility?

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[-] kerrypacker@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

If you're gonna steal cheese why wouldn't you steal the best cheese?

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Right, especially if you're going to sell it. It used to be that you could sell the cheap stuff to Russia but even they aren't buying it anymore.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 51 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm certainly not a snitch, but my respect only goes towards people who are stealing what they need rather than what they want - the former is surviving the struggle, the other is kleptomania

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

Stealing Pasta and canned veggies = necessity.

Stealing Nike TNs when you're already wearing a pair = yeah fuck you.

[-] Th4tGuyII@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago

Exactly, exactly - though I wouldn't judge people taking non-food items like soap, detergent, and other basic hygene products either. They're low cost goods most people need but might not be able to afford.

[-] DillyDaily@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

What's your opinion on stealing name brands?

Whenever I mention groceries being expensive, I have a few people comment that it's my own fault for buying name brands, and I agree, name brands aren't worth it when you're pinching pennies.

But I have allergies, and I have to be careful with shared equipment. I've had allergic reactions to certain brands of oats but not others, so even a cheap staple food like oats I may end up paying way more than the average person because I can't risk certain brands.

Sometimes that works in the opposite direction too, in a quest to find a brand of veggie stock powder I wasn't allergic to, I ended up riding my bike to the next town to try their asain grocers and found a huge 500g tin of stock powder for like $4, easily 5 times cheaper than any other brand at my usual store, and I wouldn't have gone hunting for it had the previous brand not changed their ingredients as part of a whole shrinkflation/cheaper ingredients for the same price end product initiative.

But I often wonder if people saw someone like me stealing, or using food stamps today buy name brand products, would they prejudge me as being superfluous without knowing my allergies already severely limit my diet, brand restrictions limit it even more.

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[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

It’s not my job to care or judge what someone else needs.

[-] Bonehead@kbin.social 46 points 10 months ago

At Walmart, or at least the one I worked at, every single case and jar of baby formula was tagged with a security strip that sets off the alarms at the door, on the inside of the container to make it difficult to remove. Baby formula was the most stolen item in the store. It's also one of the most expensive food items in the store.

Coincidentally, I would also find empty packaging with the security strip still attached in the handicap bathroom that was far away from the front doors and the alarm sensors.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

How fucking depressing is it to live in a country where people have to steal baby formula just to feed their babies?

[-] Player2@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago

Sounds like the education system should be improved to inform people of just how expensive and time consuming it is to procreate. All the time you see people do it who definitely do not have the means, and then being forced to steal and/or just suffer for years

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[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

What about someone who helps and teaches others how to shoplift effectively?

[-] lemmyviking@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Another reason that I need to read this book!!

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[-] cupcakezealot 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

stealing a loaf of bread? good

stealing silver from a bishop? also good because he'll also give you some silver candlesticks too

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