573
submitted 8 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 259 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here is the key sentence in the article.

...an acceleration in the long-term decline of so-called domestic-premium brands, which include Bud Light and rivals Miller Light and Coors Light...

So, are people drinking less beer or are they drinking less piss beer? Could it be that people are having two Hazy Imperial IPA's with 8+ ABV instead of a six pack of Coors Light? I am taking this headline with a grain of salt.

EDIT: I found my glasses.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 92 points 8 months ago

Who the hell thinks those three are premium?

[-] Pissnpink@feddit.uk 45 points 8 months ago

If that's premium what isn't premium? Steel reserve? That's just malt Coors with different marketing. Micky's? That's just malt Miller with different marketing. 10 barrel? That bud light wearing 2010's hipster clothes.

I think we're giving these brand too much credit with the word premium.

load more comments (5 replies)
[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago
load more comments (4 replies)
[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

Article has a vague accusation that soda-based drinks are to blame without covering any of the other possibilities here

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] comador@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

I'm more of a once a week Porter, Ale and Hard Cider drinker, but it's still a Microbrew.

Grain a salt is right: People just don't like the taste of that crap anymore, not with so many options on the market now.

Coors/Bud/MGD/Corona? I haven't had one in years.

[-] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

A Four Noses or Cerebrus Hazy is so much better than the domestic swill it’s not funny. We have so many more options these days that I’m glad it’s hurting the big guys. They’ve been making crap pilsners for decades.

[-] ThePantser@lemmy.world 166 points 8 months ago

I'm sure the weed legalizing has had an impact as well. I have completely stopped drinking in favor of weed. Saves my liver and no hangover.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 62 points 8 months ago

Saves the brain, too. Not saying weed is exceptional, but alcohol fucks the brain up.

I just don't do either anymore. Feels really good

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] iterable@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

THC in weed hurts short term memory and can cause paranoia. I just stick with CBD.

[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

CBD isn't psychoactive so it's not gonna be the same for most people, but good on you! Honestly probably just drinking water is really the way to go for health. There is probably an argument for psychoactive substances relieving stress (which is a potent detriment to health) but there are also healthier ways to do that

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Nothing fun is good for us. Just use substances in moderation and you'll most likely be fine

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Psychedelics are fun and also beneficial with appropriate use. I can't handle weed because of the paranoia, believe it or not. Just like any other substance, they can be abused and overdone.

I eat shrooms recreationally but have also used them to replace my antidepressants with phenomenal results. It took a ton of experimentation and time, but I have found a balance. Disclaimer: This is a high risk maneuver and could end very badly for some personality types. In some ways, they function exactly like S/SRIs but at a much grander scale. It turns out that psilocin can be more effective than serotonin itself. (Here is a great presentation that has some notes regarding that: https://youtu.be/cxE9qnocJEY?si=69CKRAUJd01cOCPh)

Unfortunately, some people just can't handle them. Seeing reality disolve around you can be a disturbing thing to witness if you are not fully prepared for it. However, if a person is able, a few heroic doses and the correct set and setting will produce significant life changes for the better and the effects will last for years.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] JungleJim@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 months ago

I don't remember hearing that before. Must be a conspiracy man

[-] PinkPanther@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

It's true. Same as weed can make you psychotic.

However, what they don't usually tell you if they you'd had to have the psychosis latent, but the weed triggers it. Just as a car crash could, a loved one dying, or even just getting frightened by a loud sound. Hey, even getting drunk can cause it - alcohol also causes psychosis while being intoxicated. Source: my sister who stopped drinking around 40, who realized that it fucked her up. I could tell when she'd have over single beer.

If you're ever unsure if you have psychosis latent, be careful!

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think that many people are switching to hard liquor because of the state of things, as well. My town alone has seen like a 7-800% increase in alcohol sales since covid.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 23 points 8 months ago

Can confirm, gave up crappy low cal water beer for vodka. Less carbs, better buzz.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 72 points 8 months ago

Stop making so many mediocre IPAs. Other styles do exist.

[-] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

It's insane. I swear that some liquor stores I go to have a craft beer section that's 90% IPAs... and another 5% that are basically IPAs with cutesy names like "Super Duper Pale Ale."

[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

IPAs are the easiest to make, that's why every small brewery makes one

[-] Skankboot@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 months ago

The problem is they're mediocre

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 67 points 8 months ago

beer shipments

That’s the problem. A lot of people are living in and around cities now. We buy beer at the brewery. Do these figures include 1st party sells? Distributors have always been a necessary evil and many states have laws saying you must go through a distributor for selling elsewhere, but many breweries are just doing taprooms now to not have to deal with that. I’d like to see those stats if they exist.

I do understand that many people are buying seltzers now, myself included.

[-] commandar@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago

It also doesn't help that the craft beer scene turned into a competition to push the most over the top bitter IPAs possible. A lot of the appeal of craft beer went away for me when 3/4 of the taps became unremarkable IPAs. A good IPA is wonderful, but the vast majority of what you run into isn't that.

It's only marginally more interesting than when the landscape was dominated by lagers.

[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

At least around me that has improved. Ten years ago it was just a dick-measuring contest about who could make the bitterest beer. Once you hit 90+ IBUs you're not even pretending to make something good.

Since then, craft breweries here have course corrected. Most of them here are focusing on making a well- balanced IPA as their flagship, then experimenting with sours, stouts and saisons.

load more comments (7 replies)
[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Hops are really awesome when used correctly, but many breweries just toss in hops to cover up bad bases. I’m lucky to have a few breweries around me that make really goods stouts and sours.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

It might have something to do with weed being easier to get. Where I live it's easier and faster to get weed than it is to get beer, especially on sunday.

load more comments (11 replies)
[-] Landmammals@lemmy.world 52 points 8 months ago

A 4 pack is $12. I'm just going to get a bottle of whisky instead.

load more comments (7 replies)
[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

No beer for me, just drugs please.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

I just want weed. I didn’t even think of buying alcohol for new years, but I did purchase a screen for my pipe.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 45 points 8 months ago

Meanwhile my drinking has hit personal record highs this year. Yay depression.

[-] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

18 days sober today for me! You can do it friend.

load more comments (5 replies)
[-] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 8 months ago

I also wonder how liquor sales are as well.

My wife and I are obviously only one couple, so this is confirmation bias, but alcohol in general just isn't as appealing anymore. With all this general stress we've been going through (struggling with inflation, insane work hours, insane work conditions) alcohol is causing more migraines, sucky morning-after-drinking symptoms, high calories, expensive prices, there's just no good reason to drink as much as we used to. And it's not like we drank that much earlier in our lives as well.

Tie this all together with marijuana availability which has none of these cons except for high taxes, then alcohol doesn't sound as appealing anymore.

[-] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

I think beer is gross, personally, so this isn't a post about me but reading the comments it is interesting to see beer drinkers here decide against it due to cost and wanting other choices. I have news for you guys there are cocktails and other great alcohols that cost as much as your 7 to 10 dollar beer and they taste fucking great.

load more comments (14 replies)
[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

Because it's expensive, calorie intensive and takes longer to drink than something like whiskey or vodka.

If I'm thirsty, I'll drink water. If I want to get drunk, I'll drink whiskey. Beer is the middle ground that just isn't worth it anymore.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] krakenx@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The beer fests near me are filled with selzers, ciders and stuff like mead. As someone who doesn't like beer, I think it's a positive change to have alternatives for different tastes.

[-] SnotFlickerman 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

As someone who rarely drinks and fucking hates being around dumb drunk fucks.

Good.

Keep going, don't stop, fuck alcohol.

David Nutt knew what was up. He argued alcohol and tobacco should be illegal and marijuana, LSD, and mushrooms should be legal, based on real-world harm (he also had the data to back it up). He got shitcanned for suggesting this.

Humanity needs to wake the fuck up to how fucking bad alcohol is for us as a species.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I’m not one to put down someone else’s hobbies. My wife and friends and I all go out and drink for the flavor. Cocktails are entertaining and delicious, beer gardens and breweries have a chill laid back atmosphere and really helps us get out of the house. We don’t drink to get drunk. Sure, alcohol isn’t that healthy for us, but it takes the edge off. I can’t take mushrooms, weed, or LSD every day after work to relax. Booze is nice sometimes to just have a bit of a rounding out of the day.

There are many precautions that need to be in place to protect drunks from harming others, and I get that it’s exhausting to be around drunk people.

load more comments (17 replies)
[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 8 months ago

I mean, yeah, booze isn't great for people. But it's been a fairly important part of humanity since, like, the first city. According to wikipedia, humans have been making booze since the Neolithic period (10,000 BCE). Many, many, human cultures have some sort of relationship with it. Removing it would not be easy or well received.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

No joke, it's all the seltzer marketing that gets people to spend way more on way less alcohol.

It was successful as fuck. Just look at all the streamers shilling it.

load more comments (8 replies)
[-] robocall@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

I don't like alcohol. I like fried food and obesity is certainly on the rise in America.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago

Yet even as overall volume consumption declined, the largest beer makers remain financially resilient thanks to prices that climbed alongside — or even surpassed — broader inflation, Steinman said. Beer drinkers also continued to shift toward more expensive beer brands, especially imports like Modelo Especial, which became the No. 1 beer in America in 2023.

So people aren't willing to pay higher prices for worse product.

[-] joystickslave@lemmyhub.com 18 points 8 months ago

We're much more health conscious these days. We've seen how alcohol can wreck your health and quality of life. There are more and more people that don't drink alcohol at all. And so on.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

No we're not

We've replaced drinking and snacking with smoking and snacking

Your liver can grow back and repair itself from moderate damage. Lungs cannot.

And I say that as someone who uses both.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

I find it hard to believe that the idiot Republicans who boycotted Bud Light stopped drinking beer entirely.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 30 Dec 2023
573 points (100.0% liked)

News

22890 readers
3373 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS