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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 71 points 9 months ago

No open sources drivers, no buy

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 53 points 9 months ago

How do you not know that Intel has they same type of open source graphics driver like AMD? Their kernel module, OpenGL and Vulkan libraries are all free software, only requiring small firmware blobs. That's why Intel 'just werks' on Linux without having to download a 500mb kernel module or have a separate .iso available to download specific to the hardware.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That was a little rude. I have never read anything about these cards, thats exactly how. This article was the first thing. Drivers are mentioned once in the article, in a single sentence, not about the licensing.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 30 points 9 months ago

that was a little rude

Bro you came in pretty hot too.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Like a furnace, obvi.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 9 months ago

At an absolute minimum! When Arc first came out I considered getting one just for the AV1 encoder, but there's very little else going for the whole line. An open-source driver at least makes the techier among us more likely to want to play with one.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

There was some mesa bug that was over 2 years old that was just merged in recently that fixed a huge Arc bottleneck. It's embarrassing how bad the implementations are for both Windows and Linux.

[-] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 44 points 9 months ago

Even if you never buy an Arc card, a competitive Intel will benefit all gamers.

Only if someone else does for you.

[-] Lusamommy@alien.top 7 points 9 months ago

I mean so long as it's a decent enough card, people will buy it. The arc cards we already got have some pretty solid price/performance, at least after the drivers got improved.

[-] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 9 months ago

That article is full of speculation; “if this” and “if that” and “if this other thing” than it will be great for everyone!

“If” is doing a hell of a lot of heavy lifting..

[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

I'd like to say they can only get better than the current generation, but it is Intel we're talking about.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago

I am curous about the VRAM and price points and whether they will be useful for LLMs

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Hoping they can outperform the dying 2080 Ti I have. I could use a cheap GPU upgrade.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago

That's what they said about Arc and then they were garbage

[-] simple@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago

Were they though? After they fixed the drivers and used proper transition layers for directX they're really decent entry-level cards.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Uh they weren't garbage, there was some crappy drivers early on, but that's mostly been fixed now. They're no 4090Ti Ultra Premium Super Whatever, but on cost to performance in the entry level segment they're solid performers

[-] xep@kbin.social 18 points 9 months ago

The Arc cards are the most price efficient graphics cards now, that's hardly garbage.

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago

The cheap arc are great, no amazing, for homeservers and transcoding.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Have people actually used them for transcoding in anger yet? I was very interested in buying one for transcoding on a Plex or jellyfin server but last I checked, there were still lots of driver limitations

[-] Amaltheamannen@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

It's supposed to have support in Jellyfin.

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Supposed to yes, but when I last checked (which was a few months ago, admittedly), it would crap out if you tried to transcode more than a couple of streams at a time. Which given that an intel CPU with quicksync can easily do 20+ 1080p streams, was a bit of a let down.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

I was tempted to try it but my Jellyfin server is hosted on an Unraid box and Unraid doesn't (didn't?) support the Intel GPUs.

[-] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Its performance and driver situation might not be as great as AMD and Nvidia at the moment, but at least it works. At the very least still miles ahead of Moore Threads GPUs, which released around the same time.

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The games that have drivers make it a kick ass card. It's just a question of if every game you play has those drivers.

[-] Dettweiler42@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Latest batch of drivers has them competing against the mid-range current-gen cards. They're putting in the work to really start throwing punches.

[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

... in the future!!!!

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