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[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

I just use different American accents, mostly because I'm American.

Also, because hillbilly gnomes are funny

[-] Vagabondshad@ttrpg.network 12 points 1 year ago

As a native speaker I will use the very specific Baltimore MD accent on certain NPCs

[-] girl@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

One of my PCs is a ghoul, and I am incapable of speaking that rough without sounding like Fran Fine (if she smoked for 50 years)

[-] Apeman42@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Undercommon is just really thick Australian accent.

[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I would also accept Scots, since it's barely recognizable as English

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you mean "Pikey" as depicted by Brad Pitt in Snatch.

Or, is that simply the way Duergar speak it?

[-] match@pawb.social 28 points 1 year ago

I played a furry porn game where otters spoke Tagalog and honestly, yeah that's fine

[-] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago

I am curious.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

Pfft, all dwarves are either Scottish or German. Just a fact.

[-] RQG@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

We use German as common and Dwarves are Bavarian.

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Dwarves are Scottish, goblins are German.

[-] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I like that one podcast where they established that a dwarf was caught in a dimensional rift and went to Scotland for a number of years before finding a way back home. But he brought back the accent and all the dwarves loved how it sounded so now all dwarves speak with bad copies of a Scottish accent.

Probably because the DM can't keep his accent straight. But fun nevertheless.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

No, Germans are goblins, there's a difference ;)

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think there're enough cautionary comments here re: cultural insensitivity that this is more than a little tone deaf, son.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Lmmfao.

I haven't been called son by anyone but my dad in decades.

It was also by a condescending asshole the last time it happened.

Seeing as how one side of my family goes back to Baden-Wurttemburg and nearby areas, I can be as insensitive about my own ancestry's culture all I want.

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Fair point, though the username certainly checks out, now that you've also justified shitty behavior through familial hearsay. Lemme guess, you've also "got some Indian in there", hmm?

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Since you're still being a condescending asshole, this will be my last response.

But, no, no "Indian" at all. No native American either (and you were whining about insensitivity).

All European as far as can be traced. Mostly Scots-Irish and German. A little dribble of Polish, a drab of Spaniard, and a healthy dose of French jizz. All of those were single instances, and nobody has traced the family lines of those contributions the last I talked to the extended family. Each of those was from an immigrant from those countries, not an established family of nationality-americans.

We're up here near the Appalachians. If you're a cracker up here, things were isolated enough until about twenty years ago, you had little enclaves of whatever immigrant groups came here. They would, mostly, stay to themselves with only occasional intermarriage. After ww1 and 2, intermarriage between groups became common. So you end up with folks like me that are damn near entirely a split between two known immigrant groups.

You can look up the history of immigrants in the Appalachians. Focus on the region from West Virginia down to the bottom of the Carolinas. You can see the clear waves of immigration into the region. You might even be able to roughly guess where I'm from using that information because it was such an insular thing.

None of this is hearsay. While I don't possess them, there are family bibles recording births, deaths, and marriages going back to the 1700s in one case. There are also plenty of genealogy resources out there now that make it fairly easy to dig things up if you're lucky. On both sides of my family, people have done the work. That's how I can specify where in Germany my father's father's branch of the family came from.

So, again, since you're being a condescending asshole, I'm sure you'll want to make another empty minded response. Feel free to make it a real zinger since I won't be responding again.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Germans are quite high on the cultural sensitivity list. Don't want them declaring war on the entire world again, after all

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[-] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yes Scottish Dwarf is really good.

But Goblins are not strong enough to yield German imo, maybe it could suit orc but also orc is metal voice.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Drow are Australian, on account of the land they come from

[-] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

You can't be racist against the French. Same way you can't be racist against dogs.

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity

An ethnicity or ethnic group is a grouping of people who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups. Those attributes can include a common nation of origin, or common sets of ancestry, traditions, language, history, society, religion, or social treatment.

It's possible to be racist towards anyone. If you're white go spend a couple of months in China and you'll understand that after being told by multiple people that intelligence varies by skin colour and white people are in the bottom half.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 11 points 1 year ago

I’m 90% sure they were joking…

[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wouldn't be so sure, I've been in arguments with a whole lot of people that were arguing that racism against my nation is impossible because it's mostly white...

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

They literally compared French people to dogs…

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

As one rightfully should

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, if the baguette fits...

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[-] phase@lemmy.8th.world 4 points 1 year ago

You can. And by the way, check how French are doing accent in their series. Spoiler: they don't. It's seen as racist. Yes, the way other people are cherry picking other accents is seen as racist. Roger Murtaugh has no accent for example.

Of course, it's for fun you do it. Of course we still do funny things with accents. But in little groups where the context is clear (for fun or a group of racist shitbags). To quote a dead man (Desproges): "you can laugh about everything but not with everyone". Thus not on a broadcasted channel.

Just remember that there are other cultures.

Hey, you see. I haven't been offensive. It's because I think that some times, it's good to explain things in a detached way. Now, I can say that discussions about racism is just a joke in (current, let's see if something better comes next) DnD. Not sure that accent is the problem: even when Darth Vador has a German accent to put a biiig clue of how the empire looks like the Nazis people are able to miss it.

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're getting downvotes for a couple reasons, the least of which is not the fact that you seem to be hinting at the Empire being subtle with IRL fascist adjacency... The faction was literally designed from the start with Nazis at the top of the inspiration list, and this is pretty common knowledge.

Secondly, James Earl Jones does not have a German accent, and its "Vader". I'd go on, but there's just so much to unpack. 😶

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 16 points 1 year ago

IMO - Racial/Ethnic/National Coding isn't inherently wrong. But using that coding to push Stereotypes and oppressive mindsets is.

Rule of thumb, if you're worried you will in some way cross that line, don't do coding.

[-] Funkytom467@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not oppressive mindset, but i'm ok with stereotypes too.

Because it can be funny, in comedy racial jokes are always set in some stereotypes for a reason. I think RP is mostly that, fun and joking around.

[-] gerusz@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

I have my own language mappings in my homebrew. Most of them only appear as names since most people speak Common, but I did include some people in my game who don't. (I make sure that they are some who speak a language that I speak too.) So the mappings are:

  1. Common - English. We're playing in English, duh. (Before contact with Elves, humans spoke "proto-Common" which would be mapped to German if I had to use it. Many humans still have German names.)
  2. (High) Elvish - French. Yes, in-universe the Common language has plenty of Elvish influence. (Classical Elvish is Latin.)
  3. (Wood) Elvish - Greek. Most Wood Elves speak High Elvish, but their names are Greek and many of them still speak their own language as well. The continents and seas are often named in Ancient Wood-Elvish (i.e., classical Greek) because they used to be the primary explorers before the rise of the High Elves.
  4. Dwarvish - modern Dwarvish is Norwegian, old Dwarvish is Icelandic.
  5. Halfling - Frisian. (Fortunately I haven't had to say anything in Halfling so far.)
  6. Gnomish - Welsh. (Again, fortunately I haven't had to say anything in Gnomish yet.)
  7. Orc - Russian.
  8. Goblin - Mongolian.
  9. Tellurian (not a species, but an influential country) - Spanish. Many people alongside the Bay of Luria speak Tellurian as their native language instead of Common or their racial language.
  10. Sylvan - Finnish. (My go-to for weirder names as well. Many Fey-related creatures have Finnish names, as well as those who live near Fey portals.)
  11. Giant - Hungarian. (They feature a lot in Hungarian folk tales.)
  12. Draconic - Hindi.
  13. Hashiman (not a species, but a group of eight islands - though they are also the Kenku homeland so most Kenku speak this as their native language) - Japanese-ish. The language comes in two dialects, Hanego which is used primarily by Kenku but also Aaracokra, Owlin, Tortles, and other creatures with hard beaks that have difficulty pronouncing M and N, and Hadago which is used by the rest. They are identical in writing, differ mostly in pronouncing those sounds.
[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Orc - Russian.

Haha holy shit.

Draconic - Hindi

"The dragon rears back and bellows 'DO NOT REDEEM! WHAT ARE YOU DOING??'"

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"No, Mr. Sorcadin. A Snickers is not a sprinkle."

[-] stingpie@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Tolkien was primarily a linguist, so the languages he made were actually based on real languages. Tolkien elvish is based on Finnish.

[-] timgrant@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 year ago

Why not just you Elvish for Elvish?

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[-] Hexarei@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

Esperanto is gnomish

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Just want to point out that draconic has quite a lot of words already defined, as well as a few grammar rules. 1. Draconic, 2. Draconic Primer, and 3. Lonely Planet Vayemniri (vayemniri being the endonym for dragonborn in the Realms—a race that absolutely despises dragons wouldn’t exactly be happy about a name that says "dragon").

I’m not sure what real-world language would be the best analogue. Maybe something Germanic?

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Latin is Primordial

[-] Iron_Lynx@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Works at larps too. One I go to (in NL) has Dutch as common, and we use English as Elvish and, depending on with whom I talk, I express Dwarvish with either Scottish English, Northern English or German. If I really want to commit to the bit, I should learn High German or an Austrian dialect for Dwarvish.

[-] drew_belloc@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I use portuguese for common, english for elvish, japanese for abyssal and i'm learning dovahzul to use as draconic, i'm thinking on learning german too but i don't know what it will be yet

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Goblinoids are German, with various tribes having dialectual differences (my personal fave is the Heßisch goblins of the wooded riverlands, famed for their spider silk surfing), but the most insidious in both regards is the hobgoblin Sweiß-Deutsch.

[-] drew_belloc@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Thank you, i will go with that

[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Heßisch goblins are not unlike SoCal coasties, though landlocked; in stark contrast to the assumed harshness of the German language, this dialect reflects its cultural roots in a laid-back and oft syncopated meter with a healthy seasoning of slang, my groms. I guder vie, oder? 🤙🏼

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Jello Apocalypse and crew did a Let's Play of Skies Of Arcadia that was fantastic for a variety of reasons. Everybody in the Chinese-coded nation got Southern accents. It was... an alarmingly apt choice.

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