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[-] snake_case@feddit.uk 45 points 11 months ago

Should have cloned tuvix in the transporter then split the older one.

Or should have sedated tuvix so a unique personality couldn't manifest in the time before the doctor could design a cure.

But it's easy looking back with hindsight, when you're there and it's actually happening you don't have the luxury of time to think of the most perfect solution.

[-] teft@startrek.website 11 points 11 months ago

If you cloned him you’ve just doubled the problem since a cloned tuvix is still Neelix and Tuvok. Even if you split one copy the other is still made of people who deserve to live their own lives.

Also, fuck Tuvix.

[-] mpa92643@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

the other is still made of people who deserve to live their own lives.

But those "people" (i.e., the clones of Tuvok and Neelix) never existed in the first place.

The main issue in this episode is that two sentient beings were effectively destroyed against their will to create a new sentient being. To rectify the issue of two sentient beings being destroyed to create one new sentient being, the one was destroyed against his will.

But a clone of Tuvix would not come into existence at the expense of any sentient beings besides the original Neelix and Tuvok. It doesn't solve the original "we're killing a sentient being to bring back our friends" problem the original Tuvix caused, but it doesn't create new problems either.

We could just transporter-clone and combine Tuvok and Neelix into Tuvix in one shot. The net effect is one new being, Tuvix, at the expense of nobody. Doing it by cloning Tuvix is just an added intermediate step.

[-] teft@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

Ok, here is what we do. We make an appeal to Q to solve it since he seems to love moral dilemmas.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

What problem have you doubled? You flush Tuvix out the airlock it's not like you can never use that airlock again

[-] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago

In a transporter duplication is there an older one?

It's some banach tarsky shit to create the same person twice out of their original matter steam, though mathematically possible.

[-] Infynis@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago

Tuvix was on Voyager for a long time. Keeping him sedated that whole time would have been a strange choice

[-] darelik@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I can't help but think this episode was paid for by Mars Inc to promote Twix

Edit: i mean do u eat it as one or do you split it into two

[-] Maven@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 11 months ago

Twix aren't conjoined... Are you thinking of kitkats?

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago

What they should've done is just recreated him on the holodeck

[-] aeronmelon@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

I love this because the Toymaker is basically Q.

Do this one again, this time use Janeway in the second panel.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

The whovian in me screeches the toymaker came first, the trekker points out that while Q seems to have some peculiar moral purpose the Toymaker is just an eternal ancient who sets shit on fire for fun.

Also supernovas can harm Q IIRC. The Toymaker, not so much.

[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

One of my co-workers perfectly quoted the Cyberman-Dalek scene never having seen a single episode of Doctor Who. Apparently it was all over her tik tok. I mean, I'll take it, I hope the memeability encourages more viewers. And if that doesn't do it, NPH should.

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