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Florida’s state athletic board fined a high school and put it on probation Tuesday after a transgender student played on the girls volleyball team, a violation of a controversial law enacted by Gov. Ron DeSantis and the Legislature.

The Florida High School Athletic Association fined Monarch High $16,500, ordered the principal and athletic director to attend rules seminars and placed the suburban Fort Lauderdale school on probation for 11 months, meaning further violations could lead to increased punishments. The association also barred the girl from participating in boys sports for 11 months.

The 2021 law, which supporters named “The Fairness in Women’s Sports Act,” bars transgender girls and women from playing on public school teams intended for student athletes identified as girls at birth.

The student, a 10th grader who played in 33 matches over the last two seasons, was removed from the team last month after the Broward County School District was notified by an anonymous tipster about her participation. Her removal led hundreds of Monarch students to walk out of class two weeks ago in protest.

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[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 95 points 1 year ago

Florida is such a shithole state

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

It's intentional.

Make a state shitty enough that everyone with a brain leaves and Republicans get two locked in Senators along with the electoral college votes for president.

-Sent from a shitty red state I refuse to give up on

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Yup.

-Sent from the awesome blue state I fled to from Florida

(I'm trans. Florida has never been worth dying for.)

[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

Most definitely. Ohioan checking in.

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[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

The whammy is when your hell hole state is low cost of living, so you get paid too little to be able to afford to leave. It’s also hard to be competitive when you rank LOL in education. They know if they keep us poor we can’t afford to leave.

It sucks, because I can feel the hostility towards my existence. I can’t safely pursue my career here. I’m done fighting for my state but I can’t get the fuck out.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Interesting how conservatives act like they really care about women's sports if a trans girl is playing on the team, but they were over the moon when the USWNT got knocked out of the World Cup. And don't even suggest they go to a WNBA game.

[-] violetraven 23 points 1 year ago

I remember the conservative shit fest they had over USWNT asking for equal pay to the men's team.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Her removal led hundreds of Monarch students to walk out of class two weeks ago in protest.

The kids are alright.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 23 points 1 year ago

Zoomers are vastly more progressive than any previous generation. It's why republicans have such a laser focus on schools and children media. If they don't actively do indoctrination the voter base is just going to naturally shift left.

[-] drmeanfeel@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

But boy howdy when they go right they go WAY right

[-] Midnight1938@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Whats a Monarch Student? Is there an emperor one?

[-] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just in training to arch Venture, nothing to see here.

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[-] Taco2112@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I was in school, there was only girls volleyball and no boy’s volleyball team so I have a question, say the person in this article wasn’t transgender but it was a boy (born with male genitalia and identifying as a male) who wanted to play volleyball. If there were no boy’s volleyball team at the school, would he be allowed to play on the girl’s team? I only ask because isn’t that how Title 9 has been interpreted?

This is anecdotal but I played hockey in high school and wrestled one year, we had a girl on our hockey team because we had no girl’s hockey team, she was a lot better than me too, I also remember one of our wrestlers wrestling a girl from another school because there was no girl’s wrestling team. There were no issues in either of those cases.

Regardless of all that, if there’s only one volleyball team at the school and it’s an all women sport, if a boy or transgender girl wants to play, it seems to me they should be allowed on that team if there’s no other opportunities for them to play.

I’ll finish this by saying: I am one person and these are my thoughts not a strong opinion that I’m going to live or die by so I don’t want to start an argument , just a discussion.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 31 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I worked at a school where a cis girl played on a football team where all the other players were boys. It was never a problem.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Way before women's football or soccer if anyone prefers girls would have had to play on boys teams because there were very few girls teams/clubs and honestly ten year olds aren't going to give a shit if a girl wants to kick a ball around with them.

[-] violetraven 16 points 1 year ago

I've heard some roller derby teams doing this when their attendance numbers are low. They just ask the team and have a vote to see if people are comfortable or not. According to this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX

It prohibits sex-based discrimination in any school or any other education program that receives funding from the federal government.

You would be allowed.

[-] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

If people are interested, it's easy to find a case by case solution, which fits best the given situation - but some people are just asholes or populist so others have to suffer.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I think this has always been the case when there is no other team. Its hard to say though as I cannot imaging a boy trying to play on the girls team when the boys is an option. high school is hard enough as it is.

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[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

So glad we fixed climate change, wealth inequality, bigotry, rising fascism, homelessness, etc so we can work on the real issues.

[-] violetraven 36 points 1 year ago

According to armchair analysts, isn't she supposed to be dominating all high school volleyball in it's entirety like some 'hopped up on E' ubermensch? /s

[-] bluGill@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

If not, then why is there separate mens and womens teams at all?

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 14 points 1 year ago

It's an antiquated tradition, but the field of athletics isn't exactly known for embracing progress and change

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[-] violetraven 11 points 1 year ago

Something else came to mind while reading this article:
https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2022/09/sports-gender-sex-segregation-coed/671460/

“There are players on teams that we play that are faster than me, that are stronger than me, that can hit the ball harder than me. So I knew that [the league’s] arguments didn’t really have any basis in that regard.”

This is what I've experienced in roller derby. The only thing carrying me is that I was taught how to ice skate and play hockey since I was 4. Again, pointing to a socializing aspect rather than a "gendered" thing.

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[-] kevin@programming.dev 31 points 1 year ago

Glad to see the school has some common sense. The principal and athletic director pushed to keep her on the team. Great classmates as well, learning to make their voice heard.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago

Wait if you can't discuss sexuality or gender issues in school how do they know. Codewords? Charades?

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

Don't be silly, that law was never going to be used against conservatives.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

The high school should fine Florida for mentioning gender within 100 feet of a school

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[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago

Enlightened neckbeards with shitty takes about this in three, two...

[-] FederatedSaint@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Self fulfilling prophecy, it seems. 🤨

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 6 points 1 year ago

"Be the neckbeard you wish to see in this thread" I guess

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm glad the reporting on this is easy to understand and digest.

Usually any transgender reporting makes it very confusing who is doing what because the reporter is stepping on eggshells when referring to gender.

The association also barred the girl from participating in boys sports for 11 months.

Short, sweet, and to the point. Not that I support them doing this, but at least it's clear to me what they're doing.

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep, this is where effort should be spent. 😒

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Oh no! Not high school sports! Whatever will we do?!?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Why fine them instead of disqualifying?

Seems odd

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

The FL Republicans just want to make a political statement.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Kinda glad my kids are music kids.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

They must be really fucking bored over there

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