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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

The confrontation happened as Philippine supply boats and escort ships attempted to deliver food to forces near a disputed shoal in the South China Sea.

The Chinese coast guard assaulted three Philippine vessels with water cannon blasts Sunday and rammed one of them, causing serious engine damage off a disputed shoal in the South China Sea just a day after similar hostilities at another shoal, the Philippine coast guard said.

The latest confrontation happened near Second Thomas Shoal as two Philippine navy-operated supply boats and Philippine coast guard escort ships were en route to deliver food and other supplies to Filipino forces in a long-marooned navy ship that serves as a territorial outpost, said a coast guard spokesman, Commodore Jay Tarriela.

No other details were provided. Drone video footage and photographs issued by the Philippine coast guard show two Chinese coast guard ships separately blasting water cannons at close range at a Philippine coast guard patrol ship, BRP Cabra, and a smaller supply boat.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

I realize this is a serious situation, but I can't help but be amused by the idea of navies essentially shooting each other with squirt guns.

[-] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It is, those are 'water cannons' they're not squirt guns. Just adding so people understand how high pressure these things can be.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Is there a reason people don't just shoot one back at them?

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Because China will yell "ESCALATION!!! SEEE THEY ARE ATTACKING US" and come back with actual warships and bullets next time.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

and? classic case of fuck around and find out. Maybe it's time to show dictatorships like china that their actions can have consequences...

[-] Wade@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The US is already busy supporting two other wars right now. I doubt the Philippines wants to push their luck on how much support we would be willing/able to provide.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Don't forgot that's the Atlantic carrier groups supporting those efforts. The Pacific carrier groups are still in that area. The US Navy can posture much better than China can if they wanted to.

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

China has a weird thing with fighting over disputes without weapons. In the Himalayas the Chinese and Indians semi-regularly clash with sticks or baseball bats. There are videos and they are amazing.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Pretty sure this is because both sides agreed to not carry firearms in those areas. I'd guess to prevent a full-scale war breaking out

[-] Furball@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Yes this is why. They agreed not to use firearms on their border, but still clash anyways, just with different weapons

[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

are sticks and baseball bat's not weapons? I'm confused.

[-] abracaDavid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

oh so only guns are weapons?

[-] paradiso@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Anything can be a weapon. Guns happen to make pretty effective weapons, more so than sticks.

[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That was my initial point, however many (i'm assuming Americans) are so psychologically broken,they consider anything not a gun to be not a weapon, as the initial comment i responded to implied. the downvotes only serve to confirm this bizzare phenomenon.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Maybe one day, wars will be fought not with bullets, but with squirt guns.

[-] hexabs@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Just like the emojis predicted

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Are ramming ships about to come back so these navies can wage low stakes territory war without starting any shooting? China’s already in a stick war with India so it’s not even that far fetched.

[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Isn't that what Einstein was talking about? We just cut out the nuclear war that should have come before that.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

No no, see what happened was the Chinese ship was trying to clear their water hoses from being clogged, and no matter where they aimed at the Philippine boat navigated to that exact spot in an act of aggression.

[-] PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

This reminds me of that time. England and Iceland went to "war" over fishing rights in the 70s and just, like, cut fishing nets and rammed each other's boats

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

When I hear they're ramming ships, my first thought is that it'd be a shame if someone put a giant barbell in their ship

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The latest confrontation happened near Second Thomas Shoal as two Philippine navy-operated supply boats and Philippine coast guard escort ships were en route to deliver food and other supplies to Filipino forces in a long-marooned navy ship that serves as a territorial outpost, said a coast guard spokesman, Commodore Jay Tarriela.

It also claimed a Philippine vessel ignored warnings and in violation of international navigation regulations made a sharp turn in an “unprofessional and dangerous manner” and intentionally collided with a Chinese coast guard ship, causing “scratching.”

China’s ships, which have surrounded the Philippine-occupied Second Thomas Shoal for years, have blocked Philippine coast guard and supply boats in a years-long effort to take control of the hotly disputed atoll claimed by both nations.

That assault caused “significant damage” to the communication and navigation equipment of one of the three Philippine Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources vessels, officials said.

Philippine officials added that in addition to the use of water cannons Saturday, suspected militia vessels accompanying Chinese coast guard ships used a long-range acoustic device that could impair hearing, causing “severe temporary discomfort and incapacitation to some Filipino crew.”

A flotilla of 40 civilian fishing boats, backed by Philippine coast guard escort ships, was enroute Sunday to Second Thomas Shoal and two other Philippine-occupied areas to deliver Christmas food packs and other donated supplies to Filipino forces.


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