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submitted 11 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Sean “Diddy” Combs was accused in a lawsuit on Wednesday of gang-raping a 17-year-old girl in 2003, marking the fourth sexual assault allegation lodged against the producer in recent weeks.

The plaintiff, identified as Jane Doe, alleges that she was flown on a private jet from Michigan to Combs’ recording studio in New York, where she was raped by three people, including Combs and Harve Pierre, the president of Bad Boy Entertainment.

According to the suit, Combs and his associates plied her with “copious amounts” of drugs and alcohol. The suit alleges that Combs raped her over a bathroom sink while she went in and out of consciousness, and that Combs then watched as a third man also raped her.

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[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 111 points 11 months ago

Look, I'm sorry, but I'm beginning to think this guy's a real jerk.

[-] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

y'all think he did it? I'm starting to think he did it.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You know, everyone keeps saying "the worst part is the hypocrisy," but I disagree. I think the worst part was the raping.

(I feel kind of bad making this joke in this thread, but on the other hand... Norm. So...)

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Big F to my boy Norm

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Thats a bit premature /s

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 68 points 11 months ago

Like the Snoop Dogg case, I assume this will also be dropped sooner rather than later.

It's very hard to prosecute these historical cases, and going against someone this famous is doubly horrific for the victims, so I doubt he'll ever see justice.

Hope she at least gets a payout. And that 50 cent goes ahead with his documentary about it all, so the guy is thoroughly shunned for the rest of his life.

[-] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

I missed the thing about 50 doing a documentary, and it's more fun to talk to humans than just Google something so... What's going on with that?

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 37 points 11 months ago

They've openly disliked each other for years. Rumour is that 50 Cent's production company is now making a documentary about the sexual assault allegations, although 50 hasn't cofirmed or denied it yet.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago

I don't know rap as much as some, but I have this sneaking suspicion 50 Cent is about to get shot again.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 35 points 11 months ago

Yes, but he's built up a tolerance over the years, it probably won't affect him too much.

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

TIL getting shot is like a vaccination against bullets.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Bro is like gasoline, unleaded.

[-] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Damn, I'd give that a watch.

[-] ImTryingLemmy@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

wouldn't it be weird if fiddy came out the hero in all that early 'aught rap?

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Three 6 will be the last two walking

[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

Rumor is it will be titled "Surviving Diddy. "

[-] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

This is a civil case, which has a lower standard of proof.

[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

I thought he told you that he won't stop

[-] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

This was at the bottom, and I had left the thread before I realized what I glimpsed. My god friend, well done.

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

My brother in Christ, truer words have never been written.

[-] Ibex0@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

It's wild that you can bring these lawsuits 20 years later. How is he supposed to defend himself when the Jane Doe only needs a preponderance of evidence? How can he produce an alibi after so long? Is there corroboration? I don't know how I feel about these super-old lawsuits.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/legal/preponderance%20of%20the%20evidence

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago

I’m with you on this. Evidence should be required before any person on this planet is subject to infamy, time in a cage, or death.

The investigation should be quiet until evidence is collected that is sufficient for a charge in the first place.

I don’t know this man, I’m not a fan of his work, there is no bias in me for or against him. When we’re talking about upending a persons life, evidence should be everything.

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Makeing the accusations public can help gather converting evidence. People will know if they have some information in support or defence of the allegations that they can come forward.

It also makes it easier for others that have been a victim of a similar crime by the accused and his associates. It's likely if this crime happened, it happened more than once and to many victims.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 4 points 11 months ago

You're right, but at the same time publicity can make other victims come forward.

If there's something that needs to change, it's the media's fervent need to tell us what they did and paint people as monsters, but at the same time not really caring when they're found innocent. There isn't really a way back to that initial state for anyone involved.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I knew a man personally who was accused by a 7 year old girl and had cases in two states. We live right on the border and his property is actually in both states.

Front page of the local paper (serving an area of 56,000 people) blasted him and posted his picture for everyone to see.

He was step related to the child and cared for many children in the neighborhood. The mom regularly got money from him until he found out she was blowing it on drugs. Fortunately for him, she threatened him with it more than once and after the first time he decided to record all calls with her. He passed a polygraph, details of the story kept changing, and families of the other children he kept went with him to court or wrote letters on his behalf.

He was found innocent in both states by a jury.

He died a few years back. Everywhere he went he was treated like a disease. The newspaper didn’t bother to put his innocence on the front page. They sold their papers.

One of the last times I talked to him he said, “Everywhere I go people whisper. They’ll small talk and smile, and then as soon as I walk away they talk about what a monster I am. Even people who know how it went in court all think, “What if he just got lucky? Don’t let him around your kids.” It’s a lonely life and I can’t wait until it ends.”

I absolutely hate to know that people are victims of such horrible and life altering crimes, but I firmly believe that if there’s evidence to convict someone and they end up convicted, victims will still come forward then.

I feel the same way in other situations. For example, I’d rather see 100,000 murderers free and smiling than see one innocent man sitting in prison for a murder he didn’t commit.

Once a person has that label, there’s nothing left for them. For an innocent person, that is a crime if you ask me.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 months ago

He's gone downhill ever since Donkey Kong took the spotlight back from him

[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 28 points 11 months ago

R Kelly -> Chris Brown -> Pee Diddley -> Kanye

When will it end?

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago

When we stop celebrating narcissists and start punishing them for shitty behavior before they get this far.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Rich people facing consequences???? No we just can't have that.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Of course, they do all happen to be black and in the entertainment industry. MeToo doesn't quite reach "oil execs" yet.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I think their implication was that we should try to get them before they're rich

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Pee Diddley

Lmao

[-] pan_troglodytes@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago

he's undoubtedly guilty, but it's been 20 years - why didnt she come forward earlier? the statute of limitations has probably lapsed

[-] TheOneCurly@lemmy.theonecurly.page 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is probably related to NY recently changing their rules regarding civil suits for sexual assault. The same change that prompted the Trump case.

I'm sure for a 17 year old in 2003, going after someone so wealthy and powerful seemed insurmountable. But the rule change seems to be allowing some victims to finally get some form of resitution.

[-] 474D@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He tried to kill Kid Cudi by blowing up his car, I imagine a 17 year old was (correctly) pretty scared of what a man in his position could do

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago

In one incident described in the court papers, Ms. Ventura says that in early 2012, Mr. Combs grew so angry about her dating the rapper Kid Cudi that he said he would blow up the rapper’s car. “Around that time,” the suit says, “Kid Cudi’s car exploded in his driveway.”

Through a spokeswoman, Kid Cudi confirmed Ms. Ventura’s account that he had a car that exploded. “This is all true,” he said.

-NYT

(Free article: HuffPost)

…wow

[-] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago

Fear or shame, probably.

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

Didn't some law or something come in where cases like these can still be heard in court? I'm pretty sure that's why we're seeing an influx of these articles.

[-] Corigan@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

Rape and murder have no statue of limitations I thought.

[-] nocturne213@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

NM has a 7 year statute of limitations on murder. Rape has similar in many places.

[-] Corigan@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Welp that's sad and disappointing.

Did a quick Google and it looks like while there is a statue it was extended in 2019 to 20 years for second degree and 10 for third degree, with no limits in incest and first degree. It was 5yrs for second and third which was wildly inadequate imo.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/18/us/new-york-law-rape-statute-of-limitations-extended/index.html

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That seems insanely short. But given the history the mafia had in that state it shouldn’t surprise me

[-] nocturne213@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I was not aware we had a history of mafia here.

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Shit that’s on me, too high and thought it said NV

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 11 months ago

Don't worry, every state has had some kind of "mafia."

The Amish, the Russian, the Redneck, somewhere, in some investigative report on organized crime, some journalist got your back.

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